Imalent MS18 with 100,000Lumen and R90TS with 36,000Lumen

It’s pure business decision… They’ll “destroy” their reputation to a few hardcore enthusiasts and lose them, but gain a few sales from the uninitiated. Every business does a cost-benefit analysis, and unfortunately many bean-counters are not customer-relations experts. Or engineers.

I think the lights Imalent make are fine, even good, and they have enough WOW factor in them that there’s really no need for blatant false advertising. It’s like playing poker with two crooks - “You got 5 queens? I beat you with 7 jacks!” It’s almost like the manufacturers peruse these forums, get Texas Ace’s or koef3’s or maukka’s or whomever’s test results (that are done on a huge actively cooled heatsink) and multiply it by the number of emitters to come up with their numbers.

Take the DX80 for example. Yes there was a recall, but they got to have known they were shipping a defective product. It’s almost like taking a defective product, selling them as a way to raise money, then ship replacement parts afterwards. Not saying this was the case with the DX80, because things happen, but it makes you wonder if with more extensive testing, there would have not been as much a recall as there was.

I really like the crooked poker reference.

Seriously agree that there’s no need for the overstatement. This light might very well produce 70 000 lumens. Why not call it a 75 000 lumen light. LOL either way it’s still the KING

Kinda like: so I’ve built an oldschool muscle car dragster that has 1700 HP which is astonishing yet I decide to tell everyone it makes 2050 because I think it sounds better.

The difference is, the BLF light will come close to, or slightly exceed, its output and throw specs. The GT4 is not intended to be the swath of light this is. It’s intended for large down-the-range lighting.

That said, I think a higher powered version of VoB’s GT COB conversion would probably be a more useful and practical light than these mega multi-emitter lights.

I have not experienced any problems with my Imalent lights yet.

I tested two R90C in my TA lumen tube and they measure about 14k lumens at turn on with some light leakage because of the large head size so I estimate about 15k lumens. Light is still very impressive though but a bit disappointed that I bought it so soon since R90TS will likely be 30k lumens

I don’t have a problem with the flashlight itself nor concerned about it’s quality….because i will never buy one.

In an open forum, conversation will deviate and the OP should expect that. Also should expect the criticism of the product. Particularly if the claims are not backed by actual testing and proof.

I think there would be a different conversation in here if there was proof of 100,000 lumen running, even for a minute or so. Without proof, it’s legitime conversation to question the claims.

Just saying……

I don’t know what you are reffering too, but if there is one wow light that i will force open my wallet, it would be for that light on youtube with the 38mm LED.

Even a wow light needs to be functional….

Any updates? Official release date?

I wish they used the Boost Hx in the R90TS instead of the xhp35 hi. Would have doubled the throw with similar lumen output

Is it still has no external charging port?

it has :)

Here’s the deal: They could have used 24 XHP 70.2s, ran them at a more reasonable 12V and 2.4A, and produced 100k lumens rather “easily,” while using about 30-40% less power (less heat); AND have enough overhead for turbo.

With 24 leds it will be spec 130k lumens for turbo. Turbo means overdrive to max for these giant flashlight.

Thanks Martin for confirmation. Good to know user can topup battery conveniently.

poor quality

Did they drop it on a hard surface and it cracked?

It kinda looks like 2 pieces that are screwed and sealed together and maybe the screw threads got stripped.

Any more details?

Or, possibly there wasn’t enough meat there behind the threads, causing a catastrophic failure when shocked by impact.

sorry,I don’t haven’t seen the original posts, maybe it has been deleted for some reason.

Translation:“Broken off,I find that the 2 pieces stick together.What the hell is the design.”

This does not look like the new model, it looks like the older R90C (pictured below).


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Martin’s new video says the MS18 uses heatpipes. Is that true. Looks more and more impressive.

Heat pipes only tend to work well at very high temperatures and are usually a last resort when you can’t get a cooling fan close enough to the heat source. I think it would be very strange if they were actually using heat pipes. Then again, I have no idea what’s going on inside of the MS18 other than it seems to have a single radial fan about 30 or 40 millimeters in diameter. Who knows, maybe it has multiple fans inside.