Spartan
(Spartan)
March 8, 2019, 7:16pm
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I don’t have a problem with the flashlight itself nor concerned about it’s quality….because i will never buy one.
In an open forum, conversation will deviate and the OP should expect that. Also should expect the criticism of the product. Particularly if the claims are not backed by actual testing and proof.
I think there would be a different conversation in here if there was proof of 100,000 lumen running, even for a minute or so. Without proof, it’s legitime conversation to question the claims.
Just saying……
Spartan
(Spartan)
March 8, 2019, 7:25pm
97
LouieAtienza:
Adhara:
Whatever. Even if exaggerated by 50%, it looks to kick the crap out of the GT4.
I buy this class of lights for the giggles, they’re cheap enough to justify the tradeoffs they (including the GT) force in the user. They’re toys, nothing more.
While not surprising that a BLF project is worshipped as if it can do no wrong in its eponymous forum, let’s be real: both companies lights are toys, built at and priced at that level. No one whose life / income depended on a light of their kind would be using either…
The difference is, the BLF light will come close to, or slightly exceed, its output and throw specs. The GT4 is not intended to be the swath of light this is. It’s intended for large down-the-range lighting.
That said, I think a higher powered version of VoB’s GT COB conversion would probably be a more useful and practical light than these mega multi-emitter lights.
I don’t know what you are reffering too, but if there is one wow light that i will force open my wallet, it would be for that light on youtube with the 38mm LED.
Even a wow light needs to be functional….
Any updates? Official release date?
SKV89
(SKV89)
March 9, 2019, 3:09am
99
I wish they used the Boost Hx in the R90TS instead of the xhp35 hi. Would have doubled the throw with similar lumen output
DENGOH
(DENGOH)
March 9, 2019, 3:57am
100
Is it still has no external charging port?
mattadores:
LouieAtienza:
It’s pure business decision… They’ll “destroy” their reputation to a few hardcore enthusiasts and lose them, but gain a few sales from the uninitiated. Every business does a cost-benefit analysis, and unfortunately many bean-counters are not customer-relations experts. Or engineers.
I think the lights Imalent make are fine, even good, and they have enough WOW factor in them that there’s really no need for blatant false advertising. It’s like playing poker with two crooks - “You got 5 queens? I beat you with 7 jacks!” It’s almost like the manufacturers peruse these forums, get Texas Ace’s or koef3’s or maukka’s or whomever’s test results (that are done on a huge actively cooled heatsink) and multiply it by the number of emitters to come up with their numbers.
Take the DX80 for example. Yes there was a recall, but they got to have known they were shipping a defective product. It’s almost like taking a defective product, selling them as a way to raise money, then ship replacement parts afterwards. Not saying this was the case with the DX80, because things happen, but it makes you wonder if with more extensive testing, there would have not been as much a recall as there was.
I really like the crooked poker reference.
Seriously agree that there’s no need for the overstatement. This light might very well produce 70 000 lumens. Why not call it a 75 000 lumen light. LOL either way it’s still the KING
Kinda like: so I’ve built an oldschool muscle car dragster that has 1700 HP which is astonishing yet I decide to tell everyone it makes 2050 because I think it sounds better.
Here’s the deal: They could have used 24 XHP 70.2s, ran them at a more reasonable 12V and 2.4A, and produced 100k lumens rather “easily,” while using about 30-40% less power (less heat); AND have enough overhead for turbo.
DENGOH
(DENGOH)
March 10, 2019, 12:25am
103
With 24 leds it will be spec 130k lumens for turbo. Turbo means overdrive to max for these giant flashlight.
Thanks Martin for confirmation. Good to know user can topup battery conveniently.
JasonWW
(JasonWW)
March 10, 2019, 5:17am
105
Did they drop it on a hard surface and it cracked?
It kinda looks like 2 pieces that are screwed and sealed together and maybe the screw threads got stripped.
Any more details?
Or, possibly there wasn’t enough meat there behind the threads, causing a catastrophic failure when shocked by impact.
pearlriver
(pearlriver)
March 10, 2019, 5:35am
107
sorry,I don’t haven’t seen the original posts, maybe it has been deleted for some reason.
591
(59)
March 10, 2019, 5:47am
108
Translation:“Broken off,I find that the 2 pieces stick together.What the hell is the design.”
JasonWW
(JasonWW)
March 10, 2019, 6:13am
109
pearlriver:
poor quality
This does not look like the new model, it looks like the older R90C (pictured below).
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SKV89
(SKV89)
March 10, 2019, 8:26am
110
Martin’s new video says the MS18 uses heatpipes. Is that true. Looks more and more impressive.
JasonWW
(JasonWW)
March 10, 2019, 9:18am
111
Heat pipes only tend to work well at very high temperatures and are usually a last resort when you can’t get a cooling fan close enough to the heat source. I think it would be very strange if they were actually using heat pipes. Then again, I have no idea what’s going on inside of the MS18 other than it seems to have a single radial fan about 30 or 40 millimeters in diameter. Who knows, maybe it has multiple fans inside.
JamesB
(JamesB)
March 10, 2019, 11:35am
112
It looks like the body and head are only glued together.
JasonWW
(JasonWW)
March 10, 2019, 12:29pm
113
Those are Allen head screws right above each button. They are hanging down and might have a coating of glue on them.
Locks picture.
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JamesB
(JamesB)
March 10, 2019, 12:29pm
114
I think you are right i didn’t see the screws.
Tally-ho
(Tally-ho)
March 10, 2019, 12:31pm
115
Not glued only, there is definitely screws hanging loose on the picture :