Imalent MS18 with 100,000Lumen and R90TS with 36,000Lumen

[DENGOH]

@M4D M4X

first video 

seems the cooling has improved 

YouTube

Is it still has no external charging port?

[M4D_M4X]

it has :)

[LouieAtienza]

@mattadores

@LouieAtienza

@mattadores

I love my DX80, I love the price I paid and I do genuinely like Imalent and hope they succeed. I just can’t understand why they keep purposefully destroying their reputation!

It’s pure business decision… They’ll “destroy” their reputation to a few hardcore enthusiasts and lose them, but gain a few sales from the uninitiated. Every business does a cost-benefit analysis, and unfortunately many bean-counters are not customer-relations experts. Or engineers.

I think the lights Imalent make are fine, even good, and they have enough WOW factor in them that there’s really no need for blatant false advertising. It’s like playing poker with two crooks - “You got 5 queens? I beat you with 7 jacks!” It’s almost like the manufacturers peruse these forums, get Texas Ace’s or koef3’s or maukka’s or whomever’s test results (that are done on a huge actively cooled heatsink) and multiply it by the number of emitters to come up with their numbers.

Take the DX80 for example. Yes there was a recall, but they got to have known they were shipping a defective product. It’s almost like taking a defective product, selling them as a way to raise money, then ship replacement parts afterwards. Not saying this was the case with the DX80, because things happen, but it makes you wonder if with more extensive testing, there would have not been as much a recall as there was.

I really like the crooked poker reference.

Seriously agree that there’s no need for the overstatement. This light might very well produce 70 000 lumens. Why not call it a 75 000 lumen light. LOL either way it’s still the KING

Kinda like: so I’ve built an oldschool muscle car dragster that has 1700 HP which is astonishing yet I decide to tell everyone it makes 2050 because I think it sounds better.

Here’s the deal: They could have used 24 XHP 70.2s, ran them at a more reasonable 12V and 2.4A, and produced 100k lumens rather “easily,” while using about 30-40% less power (less heat); AND have enough overhead for turbo.

[DENGOH]

With 24 leds it will be spec 130k lumens for turbo. Turbo means overdrive to max for these giant flashlight.

Thanks Martin for confirmation. Good to know user can topup battery conveniently.

[pearlriver]

poor quality

[JasonWW]

Did they drop it on a hard surface and it cracked?

It kinda looks like 2 pieces that are screwed and sealed together and maybe the screw threads got stripped.

Any more details?

[LouieAtienza]

@JasonWW

Did they drop it on a hard surface and it cracked?

It kinda looks like 2 pieces that are screwed and sealed together and maybe the screw threads got stripped.

Any more details?

Or, possibly there wasn’t enough meat there behind the threads, causing a catastrophic failure when shocked by impact.

[pearlriver]

sorry,I don’t haven’t seen the original posts, maybe it has been deleted for some reason.

[591 (59)]

Translation:“Broken off,I find that the 2 pieces stick together.What the hell is the design.”

[JasonWW]

@pearlriver

poor quality

This does not look like the new model, it looks like the older R90C (pictured below).

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[SKV89]

Martin’s new video says the MS18 uses heatpipes. Is that true. Looks more and more impressive.

[JasonWW]

Heat pipes only tend to work well at very high temperatures and are usually a last resort when you can’t get a cooling fan close enough to the heat source. I think it would be very strange if they were actually using heat pipes. Then again, I have no idea what’s going on inside of the MS18 other than it seems to have a single radial fan about 30 or 40 millimeters in diameter. Who knows, maybe it has multiple fans inside.

[JamesB]

It looks like the body and head are only glued together.

[JasonWW]

@JamesB

It looks like the body and head are only glued together.

Those are Allen head screws right above each button. They are hanging down and might have a coating of glue on them.

Locks picture.

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[JamesB]

@JasonWW

@JamesB

It looks like the body and head are only glued together.

I’m pretty sure those are screws right above each button. They are hanging down and might have a coating of glue on them.

I think you are right i didn’t see the screws.

[Tally-ho]

@JamesB

It looks like the body and head are only glued together.

Not glued only, there is definitely screws hanging loose on the picture :

[mortuus]

looks like a very poor job put together that light ?

[JasonWW]

@mortuus

looks like a very poor job put together that light ?

No, not really. The construction looks fine.

The question is did it break or did someone just take it apart.

[mortuus]

@JasonWW

@mortuus

looks like a very poor job put together that light ?

No, not really. The construction looks fine.

The question is did it break or did someone just take it apart.

really ? never seen a light that big so broken before, it looks like it just snapped, either way it shouldnt be a 2 part head since it weighs some it should be supported better then somehow. a few dents and crack if u drop it is no big deal but looking that picture it looks bad imo…

[nokoff]

@59

Translation:“Broken off,I find that the 2 pieces stick together.What the hell is the design.”

Thanks for the translation 59. The R90C has nothing to do with this thread, but to answer his question, the head of the R90C has a small allen screw above each lantern, probably for servicing and ease of assembly; you can see in his photo that each screw is hanging down onto the two lanterns (which read R90C). You can’t tell if they were stripped or broken from the presumed long drop, but if the torch still works, they should replace those allen screws.