Imalent MS18 with 100,000Lumen and R90TS with 36,000Lumen

Yeah right.

MS18 : 98k lumens 350kcd
R90TS: 30k lumens 800kcd
Which one should I get?

My two combined MT03 has over 32k lumens but they can only do about 75kcd. MS18 350kcd is very impressive too.

But I think R90TS will be more sustainable in terms of heat and power consumption.

Is it fan cooled?

Wait for the GT4 to come out for a final decision between it and the R90TS.

Have to ask Martin or ZozzV6 whether R90TS has fan cool. I would say it should since externally they looks 100% identical. Imalent will save cost if having similar parts for these two lights.

100% an argumentative troll and shill, BLF was a better place before he unfortunately joined us

I donā€™t understand how he is a troll. Some people are passionately loyal to a brand and that is not uncommon. Not sure why that is a problem. Skylumen does make good lights as I own a bunch of them.

He never posts (gloats) without comparing stock lights to his overpriced V54 modded lights. He is a shill and a nuisance

Itā€™s better to just ignore his posts than to bring attention to them.

You are basically ā€œfeeding the trollā€ which is never a good idea.

If one of those VN lights could run longer than stock on highest output without shutting down or burning my hand I would drop some serious money on them.

Iā€™m just now watching Martinā€™s video that went live recently.

It seems the MS18 and R90TS have 2 fans (30mm I believe) in a push/pull configuration. They are using heat pipes as well. It seems odd, but I guess the pipes makes an improvement over not using them.

Itā€™s a bit strange that the R90TS has smaller diameter reflector cups for the 6 xhp35-HI in the middle compared to the bigger cups on the 12 emmiters around the perimeter. I guess they ran out of room. Would having them all the same diameter be better? IDK. It means 12 emitters have a tighter hotspot than the other 6.

And this is why I didnā€™t respond to his last comment earlier in the thread, They will never see the light, and they like having the last word, so just let them have it. In other words, donā€™t argue with an (insert descriptive term here), they only drag you down and beat you with experience.

Guys, we all love flashlights and it is normal to compare flashlights with similar performance.
Vinh created and sold his giant output lights two or three years ago. Many are excited with his creation. Those flashlights are the only flashlights can be compared to Imalent MS18 and R90TS.
I donā€™t think it is right to label a person as shill unless there are concrete proofs.

Sorry for not answering anything for a while but just arrived home after midnight. And slept the same amount as Martin in the last 3 days. 2 whole days walking on IWA. And 9 hours in car to home which has 4 hours in a Mazda Miata in night in rain so I was tired as hell. Now after a good sleep n my own bed it is better.
But it is totally worth it.
:smiley:
Both MS18 and R90TS has same cooling with 4 heatpipes in it and host. The difference maybe only reflector, MCPCB, LEDs and driver current.
The shape and look is very similar to the MS12 but we compared closer and these are just looks like the old one. Not sharing any parts. Everything is new. Maybe the switch is the same and that is all.
We measured four lights in my lumen tube and then measured them in the integrating bathroom :smiley:
To get a multiplier for the lux reading for lumens.
Skilhunt DS20
Convoy L2 Luxeon V
Convoy L2 XHP50.2
Haikelite MT03 TA (Martin missed this not an MT09R. No problem he doesnā€™t have Haikelites)
With this four lights the multipliers was within 12% range maybe because flood lights bounced more in the room and for that 97966 lumen number on MS18 we used the lowest multiplier to get the most conservative guesstimate. I donā€™t call this an exact measurement but maybe having 10% error in it then it is still impressive with 90k lumens.
I bot gonna lie. Martin expected 85000 and me slightly above 70000 so both of us surprised.

Then I decided to make a bigger lumen tube and buying Maukkaā€™s calibrated lights soon because a lot of lights donā€™t fit in my 4ā€ tube.
We tokd Imalent that they must do something with the switch because it is too easy to activate while you just grabbing on the light.

Do a quick search on his posts, youā€™ll find an incredible % of them mention / gloat about his V54 lights, Iā€™m not kidding.

I own half a dozen of his lights too, but I donā€™t use every second post as a way to promote them or Vinh

ZozzV6, is R90TS using XHP35 or XHP35 HI?

YouTube



XHP35 HI

2.3A per led.

Thanks for making the video in the wind guys!

The R90TS vs R90C is right at the 10:00, easy to find again lol.
Throw-wise I can see a bit better reach on the TS, and definitely more spill immediately in front of you. This is not a pencil beam thrower (I own a few) and I actually like that spill on my R90C. Looking forward to more of your thoughts on the TS!