Imalent MS18 with 100,000Lumen and R90TS with 36,000Lumen

If one of those VN lights could run longer than stock on highest output without shutting down or burning my hand I would drop some serious money on them.

I’m just now watching Martin’s video that went live recently.

It seems the MS18 and R90TS have 2 fans (30mm I believe) in a push/pull configuration. They are using heat pipes as well. It seems odd, but I guess the pipes makes an improvement over not using them.

It’s a bit strange that the R90TS has smaller diameter reflector cups for the 6 xhp35-HI in the middle compared to the bigger cups on the 12 emmiters around the perimeter. I guess they ran out of room. Would having them all the same diameter be better? IDK. It means 12 emitters have a tighter hotspot than the other 6.

And this is why I didn’t respond to his last comment earlier in the thread, They will never see the light, and they like having the last word, so just let them have it. In other words, don’t argue with an (insert descriptive term here), they only drag you down and beat you with experience.

Guys, we all love flashlights and it is normal to compare flashlights with similar performance.
Vinh created and sold his giant output lights two or three years ago. Many are excited with his creation. Those flashlights are the only flashlights can be compared to Imalent MS18 and R90TS.
I don’t think it is right to label a person as shill unless there are concrete proofs.

Sorry for not answering anything for a while but just arrived home after midnight. And slept the same amount as Martin in the last 3 days. 2 whole days walking on IWA. And 9 hours in car to home which has 4 hours in a Mazda Miata in night in rain so I was tired as hell. Now after a good sleep n my own bed it is better.
But it is totally worth it.
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Both MS18 and R90TS has same cooling with 4 heatpipes in it and host. The difference maybe only reflector, MCPCB, LEDs and driver current.
The shape and look is very similar to the MS12 but we compared closer and these are just looks like the old one. Not sharing any parts. Everything is new. Maybe the switch is the same and that is all.
We measured four lights in my lumen tube and then measured them in the integrating bathroom :smiley:
To get a multiplier for the lux reading for lumens.
Skilhunt DS20
Convoy L2 Luxeon V
Convoy L2 XHP50.2
Haikelite MT03 TA (Martin missed this not an MT09R. No problem he doesn’t have Haikelites)
With this four lights the multipliers was within 12% range maybe because flood lights bounced more in the room and for that 97966 lumen number on MS18 we used the lowest multiplier to get the most conservative guesstimate. I don’t call this an exact measurement but maybe having 10% error in it then it is still impressive with 90k lumens.
I bot gonna lie. Martin expected 85000 and me slightly above 70000 so both of us surprised.

Then I decided to make a bigger lumen tube and buying Maukka’s calibrated lights soon because a lot of lights don’t fit in my 4” tube.
We tokd Imalent that they must do something with the switch because it is too easy to activate while you just grabbing on the light.

Do a quick search on his posts, you’ll find an incredible % of them mention / gloat about his V54 lights, I’m not kidding.

I own half a dozen of his lights too, but I don’t use every second post as a way to promote them or Vinh

ZozzV6, is R90TS using XHP35 or XHP35 HI?

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XHP35 HI

2.3A per led.

Thanks for making the video in the wind guys!

The R90TS vs R90C is right at the 10:00, easy to find again lol.
Throw-wise I can see a bit better reach on the TS, and definitely more spill immediately in front of you. This is not a pencil beam thrower (I own a few) and I actually like that spill on my R90C. Looking forward to more of your thoughts on the TS!

We told Imalent to lower the current to 2A per led on the TS bevsuse over that not much lumen gains but more heat. And maybe it will be only 28000 lumens but more sustainable runtime in turbo.
Outside in 10°C and heavy wind they keep up very well but inside in the room they get hot within a minute. And when powered off still warm after 10 minutes. We did not measured stepdown times and what is the sustainable output for long time because we did not have that much tim to charge them multiple times for those measurements.

Thanks Martin and ZozzV6 for the efforts. Imalent really listens and improve their giant lights.
Looks like hardware performance wise they are excellent, hope they get the firmware and user interface right for final product.

I wonder do they plan to have momentary mode. It will be really fun to switch on and off them quickly, like man made lightning.

OK,so it is all right for you WITH NO REASON to insult me and then when I comment back to you I am getting the last word! lol!

Look who told Blinkinglights to F himself when he did nothing wrong!

The problem with a lot of you guys is you have Double standards! :wink:

Thanks for the video guys! Man you look TIRED! Clearly shows how excited you were to power through without sleep!

lol it definitely seems like the cooling situation was vastly improved because that thing sounds like a hair dryer when the fans are on! In fact that cooling system appears to blow away anything Acebeam has shown so far! (X70 production or pre-production prototypes)

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I hope some comments above can be edited in case they contain rude words against Imalent based in fictious numbers and assumptions ;)

new, uneducated members and guests could get a wrong picture...

After watching the video I’m definitely more excited! Still a little wary but from what he showed so far it really looks like Imalent is trying HARD to listen to the community feedback and make significant changes in the directions we’re asking for.

Given that the MS12 production version had barely any QC issues especially when compared to the DX80 it seems like they’ve really taken their past mistakes seriously.

If lumen measurements keep coming back with less than a 5% difference between stated and claimed….

I won’t be able to NOT BUY ONE :person_facepalming: Lol

People ask me why I need a 32 000 lumen DX80… lol now to try and explain why my 32 000 lumen DX80 isn’t enough… ha ha ohhh man

Martin! thank you for your very hard work!

I wanted to ask you about your other comment that really confused me?

I saw it was clarified as the MT03 TA not the MT09R but was the number a typo? did you mean it had 11200 lumens not 112 000 right? Or am I missing something? Also even more confused because the MT03 should be a lot higher than 11 200 and the MT09R sounds about right at 11 200… lol like I said, I’m confused

He meant the MS18 measured 97,700 lumen and 112,000 lumen using those other flashlights as a comparison.