Thanks for the video guys! Man you look TIRED! Clearly shows how excited you were to power through without sleep!
lol it definitely seems like the cooling situation was vastly improved because that thing sounds like a hair dryer when the fans are on! In fact that cooling system appears to blow away anything Acebeam has shown so far! (X70 production or pre-production prototypes)
I hope some comments above can be edited in case they contain rude words against Imalent based in fictious numbers and assumptions ;)
new, uneducated members and guests could get a wrong picture...
After watching the video I’m definitely more excited! Still a little wary but from what he showed so far it really looks like Imalent is trying HARD to listen to the community feedback and make significant changes in the directions we’re asking for.
Given that the MS12 production version had barely any QC issues especially when compared to the DX80 it seems like they’ve really taken their past mistakes seriously.
If lumen measurements keep coming back with less than a 5% difference between stated and claimed….
I won’t be able to NOT BUY ONE Lol
People ask me why I need a 32 000 lumen DX80… lol now to try and explain why my 32 000 lumen DX80 isn’t enough… ha ha ohhh man
Martin! thank you for your very hard work!
I wanted to ask you about your other comment that really confused me?
I saw it was clarified as the MT03 TA not the MT09R but was the number a typo? did you mean it had 11200 lumens not 112 000 right? Or am I missing something? Also even more confused because the MT03 should be a lot higher than 11 200 and the MT09R sounds about right at 11 200… lol like I said, I’m confused
He meant the MS18 measured 97,700 lumen and 112,000 lumen using those other flashlights as a comparison.
MT09R was a typo. 112000 was MS18 with the higher multiplier we first got based on a weaker flashlight (Convoy L2). So 97966 is our weakest guesstimate for the MS18 based on MT03 xalculated multiplier because it has more close beam pattern to MS18.
correct
ZozzV6 has a calibrated tube
we measured the flashlights in the tube and the integrating bathroom. comparing those tube lumens to the bathroom number gives a correction factor. multiply this factor by the MS18 bathroom number gives MS18 Lumen
2 Convoy L2 (xhp50.2 and luxeon) and a DS20 gave a factor of 15.6
ZozzV6 Haikelite resulted in a 13.55 factor
we took this because it gave the lower!! result
that way the MS18 was tested with 97966 lumen compared to the haikelite
(and 112788 lumen against the 3 other lights)
hope you can understand?
Any idea what 21700 cells they will be using?
Battery life running at 100k lumens will be shocking, but never the less, i still want it 
Probably the R90 is the one to buy.
Samsung 30T obviously.
We didn’t asked. And battery pack is closed by factory in the tube. So users can’t open and replace cells just complete pack.
Sadly…. this would not surprise me at all. . 
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Yes, thank you for the clarification.
I’m wondering if ZozzV6 has ever used the above methods for measuring the output of the MS12 or if he has access to an MS12 that he could test?
Thanks to VOB who made a full 6” lumen tube we know the output for the MS12 which we could use as a comparison to the calculated results of the MS18.
My understanding is that ZozzV6 only has a 4” lumen tube which doesn’t fully fit the massive head of the MS18 which is why you also used results from a ceiling bounce test to verify the numbers?
It could be other, similar cells. We don’t know.
No its obvious
How?
It was sarcasm, not aimed at you sorry. I asked the initial question with regards to what cells were utilised.
wrong writings.
Me too. 
We had M4DM4X’s MS12 there but not full battery and it was outside the whole night in the car in cold. And in the morning we did’t had time to wait till it is warm up and charged because we should bring back the MS18 and R90TS to IWA (which was 30-40 km from our hotel) until opening time. So if we measure MS12 with cold and not full batteries it was not a fair compare.
Yes I had a small lumen tube so that is why we used the bathroom ceiling bounce. But I plan to build a bigger lumen tube soon. Calibrate it with Maukka’s lights and I invited Martin to my home and If he got the final MS18 and R90TS and we can measure in a calibrated lumen tube all the big guns:
GT
GT70
R70C
R90C
MS12
R90TS
MS18