I am not sure is the current measurement accurate. With 2.3A, the output of 30k lumens are quite low. It is merely 1667lm per LED.
If the 2.3A is already incorrectly, suggesting Imalent to lower it might not get the best performance out of the LED.
as stated above, compared to the beam character of a L2 the R90TS gave 35000 Lumens
we had a range of factors and used the lower one.
Yes I know that. But the way you place the lux meter facing wall would make single LED flashlight having higher factor compare to multi-LED flashlight. This is because less light would be hitting the wall for single LED flashlight with ceiling bounce. Haikelite MT03 is quite suitable reference in this case, that is why I believe the 30k lumens number is quite close.
I agree!
LouieAtienza:
You mixing me with djozz. We are two different guys. 
I agree that rude or offensive comments aren’t helpful and so do the rules of this forum.
I don’t agree that there’s anything wrong with people using real examples of past products and experiences to predict output values or possible new experiences. So long as anyone kept on point and didn’t fall into an emotional rant against the manufacturer based on their feelings there is absolutely nothing wrong with using factual information from the past to try and make predictions.
Moreover, especially when we’re talking about the most expensive flashlights you can buy from places like BG I think it’s actually a responsibility to help educate potential buyers rather than gloss over a seriously flawed history.
How would you feel if you went to a forum that specialized in reviewing small production run specialized cars that cost $150 000 and everyone on that forum fully endorsed a new car because the initial results from the mfg prototypes were finally accurate to the stated claims. Then afterwards if something goes wrong you do a little digging and find out that repeatedly that same mfg that was endorsed strongly was scarred with issues across multiple products and had a significant amount of legitimate customer service complaints which were simply denied by the mfg.
We’re not talking about an up and coming mfg like Fireflies who’s had some issues with their first run of products. We’re talking about a company that’s been in the game long enough and had multiple successions to their entire lights series yet have such a bad track record there is actually a BLF poll for people to verify if they’ve had QC issues with Imalent.
Trolling isn’t helpful to anyone but suggesting that people don’t dig up the the past just because for the first time ever Imalent appears to have accurate output specifications?
Imalent appears to have taken a big step in the right direction:
-accurate output specs
-changes in design that respond to community feedback
Imalent appears to want to fix their reputation which means It’s also important they understand how damaged it really is. The more Imalent feels the need to rectify past mistakes and win back customers who’ve denounced them in the past, the more likely they are to continue making changes in the right direction.
It’s not out of line to suggest that a manufacturer who denied legitimate warranty claims wouldn’t revert back to their old habits if they start believing all they have to do is produce one good series of products to undo years of bad customer service and bad quality products.
This is what happens late at night. LOLOL :person_facepalming: :person_facepalming:
Insane 
Waiting for more info.
This is outdoor sunny day settings :sunglasses:
True this MS18 will hardly make 70 000 true lumens.
You are calling ZozzV6 and me to be liars???
the Romanian Dealer Bela posted some impressive beamshots on facebook:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2288350291209344&id=179581925419535
X70 vs. MS18
^ Absolutely gorgeous picture. Not only just stunning looking, but a perfect way to show the difference in raw output between the Acebeam and Imalent. 
Where is the centre spot of the X70?
Over 5500 lumens per LED?
The MS18 is super impressive in that comparison with the X70 assuming the X70 is running on turbo. It out throws the X70 by at least double. However, I don’t see the hotspot for the XHP35HI in the X70, which makes me wonder if it is even turned on.
Bela is acebeam dealer in Romania..
I doubt he would make a light look bad on purpose.
have you looked at the other pictures he made
Cannot also see the X70 XHP35 centre spot. Why will they switch it off?
I never said you a liar. For example as i can remember you measured your R90C 21000 lumens. I got on mine just above 15000 lumens what most guys on my side got as well. Is it not perhaps something to do with the lux meter.
better?
I asked him about the exif data.