I carry TWO cheap Thorfire flashlights in the car in case one of them gets the gremlins. If it was possible, I would carry one that had a simple slide switch and put out 500 lumens.
At home, I have about 7 cheap flashlights.
When we get an EMP strike by invading hordes of humanoid tripedal hamsters, the simpler, the better.
—
Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.
My very first non maglight purchase was a fenix PD25UE. As far as durability goes i watched a YT review where he turned it on, submerged it in a glass of water which he then froze solid and to break the ice off he ran it over with his car. I was impressed
My very first non maglight purchase was a fenix PD25UE. As far as durability goes i watched a YT review where he turned it on, submerged it in a glass of water which he then froze solid and to break the ice off he ran it over with his car. I was impressed
None of those things should cause damage to any light that’s at least 1m waterproof. What would matter is if can you drop it a few feet on to the floor and not have electronics pop right off the driver board.
That ice is soaking up all the energy and none is transferred to the components inside the light. I don’t actually know if Fenix uses potted electronics on their larger li-ion lights but I can’t say I’ve heard that they do.
Maybe a potted ArmyTek or Surefire, but don’t really feel qualified in terms of
Familiarity with an array of build quality.
Definitely believe in redundancy!! I normally carry 2 (and sometimes 3) EDC
lights on my person at all times.
The “New York Reload” of flashlights.
—
“"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”” -George Washington
I have a few Jetbeams that have taken quite a beating. My Zebralights haven’t really been tested by me yet. They don’t have years of abuse on them yet. I usually carry a Zebralight on me and a Jetbeam in my go bag that stays in the car when I am out and about. I don’t really carry around AA or 16340 lights. Runtimes keep them resigned to light duty “I lost something under the couch” type lights. I have a few potted C8’s that gets mounted on rifles once in a while. They have been through hell and back. Still ticking. Not exactly factory lights though. I mean I guess they once were. Not much factory left in them now. So I guess weapon lights withstanding I would grab my Jet’s and ZL’s if I needed something dependable.
My very first non maglight purchase was a fenix PD25UE. As far as durability goes i watched a YT review where he turned it on, submerged it in a glass of water which he then froze solid and to break the ice off he ran it over with his car. I was impressed
None of those things should cause damage to any light that’s at least 1m waterproof. What would matter is if can you drop it a few feet on to the floor and not have electronics pop right off the driver board.
That ice is soaking up all the energy and none is transferred to the components inside the light. I don’t actually know if Fenix uses potted electronics on their larger li-ion lights but I can’t say I’ve heard that they do.’
I found sloppy assembly work in all flashlights that I have opened, including Nitecore, Jetbeam, Lumintop, Jaxman, Fireflies and more that I forgot.
Most durable is the light that I have overhauled myself: checking all parts and connections, fixing present and possible future flaws, and doing a proper assembly. I trust those fixed Convoys, Jaxmans, Thorfires, Sofirns and some brandless budget lights better than any A-brand that I have not opened to check.
My very first non maglight purchase was a fenix PD25UE. As far as durability goes i watched a YT review where he turned it on, submerged it in a glass of water which he then froze solid and to break the ice off he ran it over with his car. I was impressed
None of those things should cause damage to any light that’s at least 1m waterproof. What would matter is if can you drop it a few feet on to the floor and not have electronics pop right off the driver board.
That ice is soaking up all the energy and none is transferred to the components inside the light. I don’t actually know if Fenix uses potted electronics on their larger li-ion lights but I can’t say I’ve heard that they do.’
Makes sense. But it sure looked cool! lol
The light will still past those tests and I’ve heard good things about Fenix though, just that a lot of brands will too. Didn’t mean to seem like I’m ripping them if that’s how it came across.
Another vote for redundancy. Stock H03 in the go bag with cr123as, Q8 in the trunk, D1S in the glovebox, modded H03 in my EDC backpack, D4 in my EDC laptop bag, D4 always clipped in my pocket, and a C01 on my keychain. I won’t be without light haha
IMO, I’d say a modded 1× 7135+6×7135 SST-20 Convoy S2+ potted with dual BeCu springs and a simple mechanical switch, and a 3500mAh cell, with lubed high quality O-rings, ULCp AR lens, and smooth reflector.
You would be getting an efficient light in general, no standby drain, good usable throw, very low moonlight for efficiency, very good durability.
An EDC for light IMO if you were able to find a good buck-boost driver for a Convoy S2+.
I carry TWO cheap Thorfire flashlights in the car in case one of them gets the gremlins. If it was possible, I would carry one that had a simple slide switch and put out 500 lumens.
At home, I have about 7 cheap flashlights.
When we get an EMP strike by invading hordes of humanoid tripedal hamsters, the simpler, the better.
Make your home or at least one room a Faraday cage.
I carry TWO cheap Thorfire flashlights in the car in case one of them gets the gremlins. If it was possible, I would carry one that had a simple slide switch and put out 500 lumens.
At home, I have about 7 cheap flashlights.
When we get an EMP strike by invading hordes of humanoid tripedal hamsters, the simpler, the better.
Make your home or at least one room a Faraday cage.
Now that’s a suggestion I can get behind. If you’re going in, go the whole nine yards.
CREEXHP70LED wrote:
I am realizing now that posting this on a budget light forum, I am getting what I asked for.
uh, i usually have 20 or 30 other lights on deck or in the bullpen-at least at home
also in about 3 alternate locations – bedside, kitchen, downstairs
if in the car, 2 more
if on foot or bike, i have bike light, or bike light plus photon keychain light
one thing i might not do is depend on rechargeables that do not get used much
some of my car and home lights are either li primaries, or C cell, or AA, something like that
now you have to ask about b atteries — what batteries WOULDYOUTRUSTYOURLIFE TO????
i have about 25 backups there too
wle
—
"You never have the wind with you - it's either against you,or you're having a good day." Daniel Behrman, "The Man Who Loved Bicycles". It never gets easy, you just go faster. -Greg Lemond. ,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸
i;d probably say thorfire, i don;t have $100 lights like zebralights
the thorfires are good for their price
also i have a wuben t70 26650 that seems pretty solid folomov
just saying some cheap ones that i think will last
unlike
dqg
manker
utorch
wle
—
"You never have the wind with you - it's either against you,or you're having a good day." Daniel Behrman, "The Man Who Loved Bicycles". It never gets easy, you just go faster. -Greg Lemond. ,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸
More parts and more electronics = more failures. If your life depends on light, it’s not a matter of brand but more a matter of diversity : don’t put all your eggs in the same basket.
Driver & LED, incandescent bulb, carbide lamp, kerosene lamp or oil lamp, candle, etc.
Myself and my family have never been in a life threatening situation that could be eliminated by having a torch. Like, has SOS mode ever saved anyone? On the occasion we go camping or have a blackout 1 light just won’t cut it. I’m not going to have a dozen surefires or elzettas on hand for that.
None of the above.
Magic word, REDUNDANCY
I carry TWO cheap Thorfire flashlights in the car in case one of them gets the gremlins. If it was possible, I would carry one that had a simple slide switch and put out 500 lumens.
At home, I have about 7 cheap flashlights.
When we get an EMP strike by invading hordes of humanoid tripedal hamsters, the simpler, the better.
Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.
Zebralight
V11R and V10R Current Mod
On me I usually have 4 lights: MH20 in my pocket, clipped; SP32Av2 on my bag; Jet-II in my bag, A7 (AAA) also in my bag.
I’m kinda ready for the Zombie Apocalypse.
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
My very first non maglight purchase was a fenix PD25UE. As far as durability goes i watched a YT review where he turned it on, submerged it in a glass of water which he then froze solid and to break the ice off he ran it over with his car. I was impressed
None of those things should cause damage to any light that’s at least 1m waterproof. What would matter is if can you drop it a few feet on to the floor and not have electronics pop right off the driver board.
That ice is soaking up all the energy and none is transferred to the components inside the light. I don’t actually know if Fenix uses potted electronics on their larger li-ion lights but I can’t say I’ve heard that they do.
Voting “Other Brand” – PFlexPro ‘
Fenix & Zebra Light – Personally bounced them from heights exceeding stated tolerances and they’re still ticking.
Maybe a potted ArmyTek or Surefire, but don’t really feel qualified in terms of
Familiarity with an array of build quality.
Definitely believe in redundancy!! I normally carry 2 (and sometimes 3) EDC
lights on my person at all times.
The “New York Reload” of flashlights.
“"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.””
-George Washington
I have a few Jetbeams that have taken quite a beating. My Zebralights haven’t really been tested by me yet. They don’t have years of abuse on them yet. I usually carry a Zebralight on me and a Jetbeam in my go bag that stays in the car when I am out and about. I don’t really carry around AA or 16340 lights. Runtimes keep them resigned to light duty “I lost something under the couch” type lights. I have a few potted C8’s that gets mounted on rifles once in a while. They have been through hell and back. Still ticking. Not exactly factory lights though. I mean I guess they once were. Not much factory left in them now. So I guess weapon lights withstanding I would grab my Jet’s and ZL’s if I needed something dependable.
"Everywhere I go, there I am"
Keeps me safe in my travels
Fenix and Surefire.
+1
Makes sense. But it sure looked cool! lol
I found sloppy assembly work in all flashlights that I have opened, including Nitecore, Jetbeam, Lumintop, Jaxman, Fireflies and more that I forgot.
Most durable is the light that I have overhauled myself: checking all parts and connections, fixing present and possible future flaws, and doing a proper assembly. I trust those fixed Convoys, Jaxmans, Thorfires, Sofirns and some brandless budget lights better than any A-brand that I have not opened to check.
link to djozz tests
The light will still past those tests and I’ve heard good things about Fenix though, just that a lot of brands will too. Didn’t mean to seem like I’m ripping them if that’s how it came across.
Zebralight for sure
I love my armytek lights, use a wizard daily.
Another vote for redundancy. Stock H03 in the go bag with cr123as, Q8 in the trunk, D1S in the glovebox, modded H03 in my EDC backpack, D4 in my EDC laptop bag, D4 always clipped in my pocket, and a C01 on my keychain. I won’t be without light haha
Zebralight or pflexpro. But if I cared about that aspect enough, I'd build and pot it myself.
IMO, I’d say a modded 1× 7135+6×7135 SST-20 Convoy S2+ potted with dual BeCu springs and a simple mechanical switch, and a 3500mAh cell, with lubed high quality O-rings, ULCp AR lens, and smooth reflector.
You would be getting an efficient light in general, no standby drain, good usable throw, very low moonlight for efficiency, very good durability.
An EDC for light IMO if you were able to find a good buck-boost driver for a Convoy S2+.
My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547
Jetbeam. Not the brightest or fanciest but definitely durable
light addict....yeah I've got the bug.
Atrolux MF02_O2S
Imalent DT70
Emissar (All Models)
Lumintop ODL20C
Wuben A21 & T70
thrunite tn32 ut
acebeam k60
many, many others...
Make your home or at least one room a Faraday cage.
I am realizing now that posting this on a budget light forum, I am getting what I asked for.
Now that’s a suggestion I can get behind. If you’re going in, go the whole nine yards.
Hope you’re happy
uh, i usually have 20 or 30 other lights on deck or in the bullpen-at least at home
also in about 3 alternate locations – bedside, kitchen, downstairs
if in the car, 2 more
if on foot or bike, i have bike light, or bike light plus photon keychain light
one thing i might not do is depend on rechargeables that do not get used much
some of my car and home lights are either li primaries, or C cell, or AA, something like that
now you have to ask about b atteries — what batteries WOULD YOU TRUST YOUR LIFE TO????

i have about 25 backups there too
wle
"You never have the wind with you - it's either against you, or you're having a good day."
Daniel Behrman, "The Man Who Loved Bicycles".
It never gets easy, you just go faster. -Greg Lemond.
,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸
i;d probably say thorfire, i don;t have $100 lights like zebralights
the thorfires are good for their price
also i have a wuben t70 26650 that seems pretty solid
folomov
just saying some cheap ones that i think will last
unlike
dqg
manker
utorch
wle
"You never have the wind with you - it's either against you, or you're having a good day."
Daniel Behrman, "The Man Who Loved Bicycles".
It never gets easy, you just go faster. -Greg Lemond.
,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸
More parts and more electronics = more failures. If your life depends on light, it’s not a matter of brand but more a matter of diversity : don’t put all your eggs in the same basket.
Driver & LED, incandescent bulb, carbide lamp, kerosene lamp or oil lamp, candle, etc.
Fenix, I’ve had a Fenix PD35 has a daily carry at work for a few years now, been dropped more than a few times. Still going strong!
I love my wife’s toy poodle
Myself and my family have never been in a life threatening situation that could be eliminated by having a torch. Like, has SOS mode ever saved anyone? On the occasion we go camping or have a blackout 1 light just won’t cut it. I’m not going to have a dozen surefires or elzettas on hand for that.
Zebralight.
Also feel pretty good about BLF Q8. Straightforward and stout.
Voted “other”. Convoy or MagLite. Simple & reliable in my experience.
John 3:16
Pages