Which brand do you think is most durable? Your life depends on it and so does your family.

If the zombie apocalypse comes then you don’t want to be hampered by ‘what battery is suitable’……

:laughing: :laughing: :innocent:

I am a longtime Malkoff fan and have never experienced any issues. All of Gene’s work is beyond compare in my book. I EDC an MDC daily and would gladly put my trust in any Malkoff in my collection.

I still have a couple Surefires, (a G2 and a 6P) no doubt they are durable & simple, but in the case of your question redundancy is more important. A single flashlight can be lost or broken no mater of the brand. I did drop a Nitecore MT2A from 3 stories up on concrete while it was still on, and it stayed on & never broke. for flashlights any of the good quality time-tested light models by Fenix, Surefire, Streamlight, Nitecore, Olight, Pelican, Zebralight, Thrunite, Klarus, Jetbeam, Maglite, etc will do the job. I just make sure i have 2 or 3 lights in emergencies, long camping trips, or remote areas.

Hahahhahhahaa Nice one with the surefire, See him throw it ? I would KILL all my China lights before I could ever kill a SF. Possibly a bad HT on the body.

Retracted statement

Once you bump up the food , I like high end water filters MSR and Kataydn water filters. Then boil for virus destruction if needed. If the micron of the filter is not small enough.

Other people will die let them if they are not intelligent enough.

You did what to a Surefire?.
What version of the Defender.
I have eight versions of the Great Defender.
And maybe I don’t have ’em all.
None of ’em will ever hit concrete. They levitate.
They gave you a Chinese fake junk garbage.

Similar to the one pictured. With Surefire prices they charge : Not standing up to my tests at at all. Total JOKE. I would buy Surefire for collecting only. Not field use.

Other brand stood up to better abusive/impact test conditions than Surefire. And at a FRACTION of the cost.

The United States Armed Forces are in dire need of your professional advice.

Correct. My Dual Engineering Degrees would help them for sure.

Bachelor Of Science in Structural/Interface Design

Bachelor Of Science in Electrical Engineering

I’ve had 2 Surefires quit on me, both were the more modern LED variants.
I’ve had fenix quit on me. Not the eo1 though, it will never die.
I’ve had cheap ones quit, i’ve had expensive lights quit, the only real answer is to have many to choose from.
I have a few LED lensers now, while they are often not the first choice for flashaholics I find them tough and functional. One is rechargeable, one runs on easily sourced aaa batteries.

I had an HDS years ago which I stupidly sold, I wish I had kept it because that would be my answer for the one unkillable flashlight, the downside (for me) being that they ran on cr123. My preference these days is for AA, AAA or USB chargeable units.

one thing here is, everyone has had something fail.
those are just isolated incidents.
what would matter is some huge survey of things that lasted, things that did not, why, and what the use and application was for all of it

also, usually in surveys like this, the complainers are more numerous than the satisfied users.

another thing is, i don;t really think quality translates directly to cost
and some results here bear that out

there are many reasons why things may cost a lot
it may be an attempt at quality that still failed
it may be looks
it may just be marketing - charge a high price and someone will believe expensive must be better

wle

I think you are right wle. Anything can & will fail sometimes. I have never had a Convoy or Maglite fail…. but this does not mean it could not happen. It surely could.

I have had 1 Nitecore fail, a bad electronic switch; but that does not mean Nitecore is unreliable. It was an isolated thing.

I think for me what I want in a last ditch SHTF light is simple. Manual switch & simple controls. AA compatibly would suit me also. Eneloops are hard to beat.

If you want real unkillable light, get a Solarforce (Al) or NexTorch (nylon) with a real hotwire-bulb drop-in.

Won’t win any lumen-output awards, but it’ll outlast even the cockaroaches.

I’ve a slew of old ASP and Streamlight lights that have endured daily abuse. Since the turn of this century I’ve always carried a LRI Photon light on a neck chain. Extremely reliable and there when others were not.

I’m sure your scientific tests will help the country.
And your degrees will impress the Pentagon.
Uncle Sam will stop buying Surefires immediately.
Just don’t go with “the one pictured” thing.
You can end up in jail.
For wasting their time like you waste yours.

HDS

My daughter grabbed my Convoy L70 blaster out of the drawer at 3am to scare off a burglar. She walked past the simple one button lights I’ve left out (her fav the Nitecore MH20GT) to get to it. She pointed it at the douchbag. (drumroll for blaze of blinding light) whahhh whaaaaaa…the light didn’t work ….so she called the cops. Burglar didn’t see her at all despite her being @15 feet away and the cops arrested the guy.

Oh, turns out that you have to press the damned tail button FIRST, before the side button is hit to turn on a L6. That’s all. Flashlight worked fine after all, the officer, daughter and I all got to laugh about it @3:30am.

Here’s a better thread for this kind of content.

This is why the whole idea of mech/electronic dual-switch lights irritates the hell out of me, either you want turbo right away and it comes on in low, or you want low and blind yourself with turbo. Then, after turning it on you need to use two hands or completely change your grip on it to cycle the modes. No thanks.