Which brand do you think is most durable? Your life depends on it and so does your family.

My hands are deadly weapons, not super-efficient against rocks but can chop off dozen of heads per second.
(N.B. : Tested against an army of snowmem in antartica)

As a few around here have said. Do not rely on a single point of failure.

One is none, two is one. Always have one backup. So have 3 lights if it is critical and your life depends on it. Find the ones you like and use them. I agree with a few around here that the Surefire lights are waaaaaay over priced, along with Eltza (sp).

The last large earthquake we had (7.1) all my lights and batteries mystically appeared on the dinning room table when I made it home. The wife did not care what it was designed for, along as it had a working batteries and she could turn it on and provided light. Now when I mention a light or batteries, she comes over and has a quick lesson on how to use and change the batteries. She also says “At least you do not collect watches, as it would be hard to climb under the house trying to make sure all the pipes are ok using a watch face.” One of her friends husband collects watches and his wife could not find a flashlight and came over to see if she could barrow one. She was surprised when my wife just handed her a plastic one that used C sized batteries.

As a side note I have picked up a few more Emisar D4S lights and batteries because of the secondary indicators, run time and ramping. Also have a stash of AA lights and a few Costco bricks of batteries just in case. To hand out to those that might need a little light.

Everyone says end of the world ect. I just say in case of natural disasters, floods, fires, earthquakes, hurricanes, rainstorms (ever have 8 inches when the record for the last 100 years was only 3 inches?) and what have ya. It is funny how fast darkness falls.

Surefire is very worried that you dislike their illumination devices, I’m sure.

S2+ in red.

Again, can swap for a TIR if you want floodier.

Surefire better be. I spend $1000’s on flashlights. From all companies listed above. Surefire is a JOKE claiming durability. SF FAILED on BASIC impact resistance test. While others PASSED with FLYING COLORS!!! Ha Ha.

“All men are equal when their memory fades”

Lemmy Kilmister R.I.P.

You’re killing me with this TIR thing. :confounded:

1…WHERE can I buy TIR lenses?

2…Other then the built in anodizing, is the S2+ any better then the VG10s? I can buy that for about 11 US bucks.

Right from Simon/Convoy when you’re ordering the red S2+ with the 4C emitter.

Get the 60° one for a nice flood without diluting the beam too much.

mmalive, please drop the subject and do not post in this thread.

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I’m having shopping anxiety. I went through the site and I can’t find an S2+ with a TIR lens.

Do I have to send an email to get that option?

You got that right.

Maybe he’d even install one if you want, but ordinarily you’d order it as a separate item. Or just ask him.

Put the light you want in your cart and send him a message with any special requests. I believe he sells TIR optics on his AliExpress store too (I was dumb and forgot to look for/order any when I bought my last S2+) and they are VERY simple to swap out.

Yo guys…you are making a mess of this thread.

Take it to PM……or better yet, LET IT GO.

elbakan1, you too please drop the subject and don't engage in or respond to arguments.

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Did everyone enter an Annoying Quote contest and forget to warn me?

Ok.

I don’t want to fool around with any electronics/led in fear of creating a dangerous issue. The lens is a none issue in terms of danger.

Surefire sucks. There i said it

Unless you do something really, really dumb you aren’t going to cause any issues by reflowing an LED or swapping in a new MCPCB. The worst I’ve ever done is fry a driver by shorting a light by having the reflector touch and short the contacts on the board.

:person_facepalming:

The S2+ will be used as it is right out of the tin, EXCEPT you just unscrew the pill, pop out the reflector, pop in the TIR lens, and screw the reflector back in. No soldering, no electronical brain transplant, nothing.

It’s so easy a monkey can do it. So who’s better, you or a monkey?