Andúril 2 coming to Sofirn - The general Sofirn development thread

Surely you’re joking.
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And I think you know that I mean REAL reviews not the “twitter” reviews on the product page.



This clip design is pretty nice because it both captures the clip so it can not pop off of the flashlight and it also prevents it from twisting on the light while still being easily removed if you take the tail cap off. My only gripe with it is that they should have made both sides of the wire have the same width of gap so that it could be installed on the light in two orientations. If a designer was feeling really clever, they could machine the same grooves on both ends of the battery tube so the light could be carried either bezel up or down.

the MS1 is an old model with some design issues. Sofirn want to update it but would rather design a new different diving light after a meeting.

And prototypes of a new diving model SD05 (if I remember correctly) will be the next step.

Thanks for all the ideas, designs on new sofirn logo, slogan, box design. You guys are amazing! I totally agree with TheIntruder’s words.

I transferred all the ideas, and sofirn will take it into consideration. I believe the boss will make the best decision for sofirn.

I look forward to seeing the new design.

I don’t know much about dive lights but I know what kind of light is useful on a nuclear submarine. :wink:

I’m sorry you misunderstood me. Another way to say it is “It also seems fairly new considering the oldest feedback is from October 2018.”

I wonder why there is no older feedback if it’s such an old design? IDK.

The listing says XM-L2 and the picture shows an XM-L2. You can tell the older XM-L by their green background around the die.



Thanks for taking our ideas into consideration, Barry! :THUMBS-UP:

It would be fantastic if you take new BLF ideas to your boss on a frequent schedule.

I guess I can speak for all of us BLF'ers here that we want to help Sofirn being more successful and more competitive on the flashlight market. Competition is always a good thing and as far as I can evaluate Sofirn's collaboration with BLF and their story of success it always resulted in valuable mutual benefits, such as the Q8, SP36 with NarsilM and many more items to follow (C01S BLF edition, Q8 extension tubes, neutral/warm white emitter choices, etc.). I do agree with TheIntruder about the priorities of product management - there's no doubt about the truth in his words. However, I also agree with rost333 that there's quite some potential here that is worth picking up. While Sofirn's corporate design can of course be kept simple it still lacks some kind of USP (unique selling proposition) and isn't there a saying "appearances matter"? ;-) I have no hard feelings if all these ideas will end up in Sofirn's trash bin - that's fine. But in my opinion it's better to have tried than being sorry for not having tried.

Apart from all this, I'm happy to offering my help to Sofirn in order to rectify factual errors, spelling and translation mistakes.

For anyone interested, here my updated drafts about the logo and box design. I have tried to consider all your input.

The logo:

Two reworked cardboard box design drafts:

Supplemental:

I will try to work something out for a paper colored draft and for the Convoy box "casket" design. The Convoy casket design is much more sturdy than the weak and thin cardboard boxes of the C8F 21700, SP36 and Q8.

I hope the SP70’s box is sturdy…. now that’s something I don’t want to see in plastic :stuck_out_tongue:

When Sofirn will become larger (wealthier) company they can think about more sustainable material packaging. Something like this can be ordered here (very close to Sofirn)

For now there is this ecological option: Cheap Cardboard Packaging Protects One of the World’s Most Expensive… This kind of packaging won reddot Design Award



Many companies started with this kind of packaging:

Sofirn can experiment with different shapes taken from different industries to distinguish themself from competition:




Another (personal opinion) good idea is drawer sliding option

And for the end my absolutely favoured design by Zsófia Pressing both in form factor and cost effectiveness

I tried to replicate this and adjust to hold SP11. It worked pretty well. The light was not moving at all inside the “holder” and I’m sure that if cardboard was 2 mm thicker it would be very sturdy. All it would need is a sleeve over this holder. Something like this one below.

If done by professional company it would be great and cheap alternative to current box. Plus it would distinguish Sofirn’s flashlights from other flashlight packaging on the market.

I think we can let the box topic go now, I believe sofirn will make it better step by step. :smiley:

Got it :wink:

My next thing I want is a good replacement for my now-dead Olight S Mini Cu - so 16340 (or 18350), about 7-8cm long, ~600 lumens on turbo, TIR, LH351D 5000K (the “dogfarts one :wink: ) - that’d be incredible. Using an 18350 makes it easier to pop a 16mm PCB in…

Holster for Sofirn Lights

Good idea. 16340 usually makes the light smaller and lighter. Make it with a reflector which can be easily opened and swapped to a TIR. Pocket clip. Built in charging. Most importantly, use NarsilM or Anduril. I’d build my own, but the driver shape is quite ”unique”. The On The Road M3 comes close, but I can never get the exact brightness level I want.


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Yep, having serious withdrawals of something small but powerful on the belt. The S Mini is crazy what they do with the space, although as you’d expect it gets pretty hot pretty fast on turbo :slight_smile:

It could always use 10mm PCB, they’re common enough.

Two-way clips are nice, but not essential.

I like 16340 lights too, but not 18350. If it’s supposed to be small and lightweight, 18350 is too big for me (width and weight) as there is just a small difference to 18650. I have quite a few 16340 lights, but they usually have pretty terrible UI.

Yeah, 16340 is fine then. The simple Olight/Thrunite/other brand UI:

When off:

  • Single press goes to memory mode (so “on”)
  • Long press goes to moonlight (0.5 lumens)
  • Double press goes to turbo
  • Triple press goes to strobe (but this isn’t necessary)

When on:

  • Single press turns off
  • Long press cycles between L/M/H or however many levels
  • Double and triple presses the same

When in turbo:

  • Single press goes back to last mode (whether L/M/H or off)

Andruil/Narsil ramping is nice, but I’m prepared to forgo that on a small 16340 light.

One of the reasons I think it’s critical is for the battery level readout. I’ve accidentally ran out of power a few times because there’s no good way to know it’s level. I can usually remember how much I’ve used it, but sometimes you forget.

I am unable to track my energy usage. I must take a DMM every several days to know if my EDC cell needs recharging.

Yes, that’s what I miss on several flashlights I have. I find it silly that quite often even flashlights that have USB charging do not provide any information about battery level. For example, small keychain I carry nowadays is rovyvon aurora a5, but it does not have any information about battery, so I have to charge it often, just to be sure and that’s annoying. Even something simple like blink 1-3 times works quite well and should not be that difficult to add.

Triple press = battery voltage? Say, three blinks, then nine blinks for 3.9v?

Yeah, blinking out the voltage is nice the way you mentioned. But even the simplier method like mihlit mentioned is helpful also. The Biscotti UI (IIRC) uses a 4 blink battery check.

  • 4 blinks = 90 - 100%
  • 3 blinks = 70 - 89%
  • 2 blinks = 50 - 69%
  • 1 blink = 30 - 49%

I may not have listed the percentages exactly correct, but you can get the idea I think.

Oh, I like that. Yep, if someone builds it like that (except maybe make it 4 clicks for battery check, not 3) then we’re on fire.

Please someone make this!