I have realized something about this community.

No A/C in Florida :person_facepalming: It was my old 1st gen 4runner so finding parts amd making the effort to fix 30 year old A/C components for a rusty old work truck was not in the budget, have to be able to afford all these flashlights! Wasnt even a bad area either. Now I ride a motorcycle everyday so I carry an actual collapsable baton as well as flashlight and a small fixed blade knife that I dont have to fumble to open with gloves on.

Yeah motorcycles aren’t something I thought of but it makes great sense.

lol What do you mean easy to spot!! Me and this guy are just carrying this 70-lb boulder over the overpass to our landscaping job. The boss is such a cheap prick he won’t even give us a wheel barrow!

The one that has a defibrillator built-in.

Gear is tactical if it is made and used for that purpose. There are tactical lights, that are built for use in tactical theaters and are used their. That is what I was referring to. Lights built and made for only one purpose. To use during a life or death fight.

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I’m just trying to understand why and or where you would prefer low lumen over high in a tactical situation. Personally I like turbo.

2 offhand. In cqb where you just want to light up what’s in front of you without ruining your vision once you turn off the light, and when you just want to light up what’s in front of you without giving away your position to everyone within a square mile.

I die in the summer heat here in MN even… my condolences. :open_mouth:

Yeah Turbo will give your position away in a second.

Those are the 2 I want turbo for. In CQC if I’m in control of the light, I’m using it like a handful of sand (to blind/stun an opponent). If you’re using the light to see where you’re going you’ll be a low lumen target. We trained to always move after we turn our lights off.

To each his own I guess.

I believe the best type of light in defensive use is a big thrower. And a .338 Lapua.

Nothing says safety like distance and 250 grains.

In my world any light gives your position away, that’s why we always move after using the light.

Sisyfus, where have you been all these years?!

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Low lumens is also less glaring to the user and takes less time to adjust from. If you are expecting the light as the user then good, but in darkness even 500 lumens suddenly to the face is enough to blind and be painful. Wonder how a nice high CRI would do in a combat enviroment? Enough stress on the rest of your body why not take some off the eyes? We also use a lot of IR lights but thats a whole different ballgame. Try driving a 5 Ton truck wearing IR vision with no depth perception.

The one mounted on a 1911.

In addition to the above, better believe at home though Im grabbing the Q8 and smashing turbo to see what the dogs are raising a fuss about in the yard. Suprised someone peeking over my back fence one night with the D4 at full turbo, turns out my poor nieghbor was looking for his cat and was worried my dogs had gotten at it.

I used to be a firm believer in WML’s but now having children I dont exactly want to go see what that noise was in the house somewhere and light up one of my kids with a pistol pointed at them. I am however still a hardcore believer in 1911’s :sunglasses: I will gladly trade round capacity for a hunk of steel slabsides in my hand any day! (edit) I do have a single mode mounted on my ARX as that serves a different purpose and I dont expect to be doing much room clearing in my house.

These two answers exactly. Yes turbo is good for a quick hit and move off target also. Always move off target after lighting a subject.

Yes, However I do not have a big enough thrower to reach out and touch someone at 1,500 plus yards. LOL :wink:

This thread has evolved quite nicely into an adult conversation about “tactical” uses and peoples different needs and uses of defensive flashlights without anyone debating how one way or another is wrong. Quite nice actually.

Imagine a modded BLF GT mounted on a rifle :smiley: