I have realized something about this community.

One good use for a quality zoomie… near-zero spill.

Need to put the bi-pod under thick concrete, or the sheer weight will pull it into the ground. :smiley:

A few months ago, I just got the Q8 and about a week later, got to use it when I heard a thump.

Posted it here and was ROASTED on how I took my life into my hands investigating it. Something about…what if he had a handgun. A handgun? In a very low crime city. In Canada. Where they are so restricted that it costs two grand in the black market.

Now I read post after post on defensive/offensive use of flashlights.

Can you people please make up your minds!

Meanwhile, I’ll keep looking through the Uzbekistan Mail Order Brides site……

Actually, this thread “whut’s a ‘tactical’ light?” was asked a while back.

My answer remains the same. 1 mode only, or at least be extremely difficult to accidentally switch modes, and a forward-clicky (momentary-on) switch.

You want to be able to quietly flash’n’dash, not have to click-on and click-off, also giving away your position by sound.

Now, ideally, you’d want a 2-stage switch, a light press (like on a DSLR) to give low-intensity light, and a full press for going “turbo”. But those switches would likely be less reliable than a single-stage (simpler) switch.

Fixed that for ya…

Different people have different opions on what to do in situations. Do whatever you feel is needed to protect you and your family. Training and practice is key though. I know that your parameters for “self defense” are very strict so train within your legal limits.

This is why I recomend the ASP Triad CR to people. Single mode with a twisty tailcap to select either momentary only or fwd clicky. If only the pocket clip didnt suck and I hated the foam grip on mine until I machined a knurled sleeve to replace it. Plus if you want 18650 use you have to have to body bored. Primaries only from the factory.

In my eyes that is correct. My “clicky” SF tailcaps are not tactically correct. Even tough it takes some effort to get them to click and latch for constant on. In stress a person might press too hard. a tailcap that has only momentary on with a press, and a constant on with the tailcap being fully twisted into the tightened position is what I consider a proper tactical tailcap. Also, the gas pedal tailcaps that SF now has re introduced on some models I consider tactical, slight press for low hard press for high.

Bugger, they stole my idea…

I am a former SAR tech & volunteer firefighter, and yes i used Surfire, streamlight, and all those very few local-built brands that seemed to be worshiped & considered the only flashlights to own or use by some people of a certain other forum i won’t mention here I moved to BLF because it is far more informative, more mod-friendly, & open to great lights of all price ranges, brands, models, types, & sources, and not stuck in a narrow bubble/perspective of a single brand buttering-up mentality of some people i met elsewhere because of some organizations & governments supply their public servants a particular brand of light, (partly in due for the fact they were FREE suppied as tools for most police, fire, military, SAR, as well as a free supply of CR123 batteries.There are cases though where when the surefires & streamlights fell very short of SAR requirements, especially in the high-output or long throwing needs for marine, wilderness, or air searching. I started out on the “other” forum, but came here and felt this was better suited for my needs and interests, especially when it comes to modding lights to better them or needing certain types of lights that the government-supplied brands fell short on. I do have some Surfires and still like them, but they have their purpose and limitations.

Fwiw, for quite a while I was EDCing a Nitefox UT20, which has a FC tailswitch (power on/off only, momentary-on), and uses a side-switch to select the mode. Quite nice, but it’s a moose.

Yes, a long time ago, now brought it back :smiley:

If you are doing SAR work, Surefires except for the Dominator is really not an option. Hahahahahaha oh and the price of the Dominator… :person_facepalming:

I wonder how popular Surefire, Elzetta, and Malkoff would be here if their 200 USD light only cost 50 USD?

Exactly. There are far more powerful & more practical lights for night searching than even the wayover-priced Dominator regardless of price. For the ridiculous 1000+ dollars of that light its not even a practical option. i can have 2 of each of a top quality headlights, thrower lights, flooder lights, UV & Red night map lights, lanterns, diving lights for water searching, and a 10 year supply of batteries, chargers, etc for less than that dominator. (added its also regulation policy that each wilderness SARtech is required to have redundancy of at least 3 levels for lighting. (lights can get lost on remote searches, and having one 1000-dollar light to loos it or break it is pointless.

One more thing about the super high lumen lights, is that they stun/blind even in daylight or lighted buildings, at least in CQC.

When I’m doing K9 SAR I like throw, Olight M3SX-UT or now my Acebeam T27 (the new Acebeam reaches out nicely and carries very well).

Same as we liked to use, is throwers with less intense spill & high lumens, but strong throw for mountain & sea searching. (the “glare” from massive spill can be blinding no doubt. The M3SX-UT is one of my favorites to use too, its light, throws for nearly a mile and don’t blind. Another of my favorites is the BLF GT Mini for closer ranges.

Oh you know… just hiding out here in Brazil taking out random motorists to avenge the boulder that I rolled all the way up a hill only to have it roll back down on top of me…. The Brazilians thought they got the last laugh!

lol nice greek mythology plug!

how about an MS18? lol not only does it have 1.5 mile throw, it’s got a 100,000 lumen strobe you can confuse and blind your targets with.

lol might make your gun a little front heavy but that’s what bicep curls are for!

I’m starting to think that if you were 1/4 as good at identifying quality flashlights as you are at finding a mail order bride…. You’d probably have a dozen already with 3 on pre-order!