[GB has ended] JetuE17A/JetuE21A/Jetusolis

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I also dont use cool white at home, I use 3000k Incandescent… @100 CRI… :wink:

good points, darksucks offers nickel plated lights… they stay shiny… no tarnish, but also not Oligodynamic like copper, silver, and gold… did somebody mention Gold plating? LOL!

now back to our JetU program :slight_smile:

Gold plating would be quite nice, but the gold salts cost would have to be justified by plating a lot of lights.

It was an e21a

What kind of MCPCB comes in the kit? Is it XP footprint or specially made for E21a/Optisolis? If XP, is the LED connected to the positive and thermal pads, then MCPCB insulated from the aluminum pill, and ground wire connected to the MCPCB?

Sorry if I’m misunderstanding something or if this has been discussed elsewhere.

Insulated copper non DTP specifically for E17A/E21A and 757

[Clemence]

That’s a curious choice. I suppose these don’t have super thin ceramic insulation, do they?
If they do - I’m very curious about the maker. :slight_smile:
If they don’t - does copper offer any real advantage over alu?

Yes
Double the heat conductivity

No, it’s not a curious choice for these reasons:

- no benefits of nanoceramic or copper board at Jet-U power level (230-235mA). But decided to go with copper because BLF likes copper and eventually someone will use it in a hot rod lights.

  • Faaaaar cheaper than nanoceramic board. $0,6/pc (for 2 LED types at 200pcs per type, 400pcs total all in) vs $2/pc (for 400pcs per LED type). The NC prototyping cost is killing me.

About the maker, I’ll keep it secret to stay alive. But you can find many makers out there using the same base substrate. Bergquist

At 230mA power level, copper doesn’t benefit to almost everything except it can be soldered onto solderable objects. These 10mm Jetusolis/JetuE17A/JetuE21A copper MCPCB already tested against NC board.

Check the my post in your own thread below:

In for two kits - hoping that it works with a Lumintop EDC01 but will get a Jet-U if not.

I see. Thanks for the explanation.

UPDATE: 190407
MOQ of 60pcs reached. But I will keep the interest list going until I have finished with RRT01 testing. And possibly combined with RRT01 interest list. My RRT01 shipment from Banggood still somewhere between Hongkong and Indonesia. With combined order I should get better pricing for you too.

[Clemence]

Uups I guess there was a misunderstanding

I wanted to update my interest in total from 1 Jetusolis 5000K to another Jetusolis 3000K
So I made a second comment.
Now the second Jetusolis moved to Nr. 28;
Nr. 28 and Nr. 1 is the same person

Thank you

Fixed Doc :wink:

[Clemence]

Comment made on # 28 of sheet.
1x jetusolis ultra high cri @ 5000K.

Thanks.

I’ve never bought a flashlight this way and I’m curious. Does this mean we can get what is essentially a new flashlight with our choice of LED and color temperature? (I’m curious about the Optisolis but I’m not sure if I’d want 3000, 4000, or 5000K.) How much would one of these cost in total and how exactly do we set it up?

Please refer to post #1, click the link. All answered there.

Thanks,
Clemence

I’ve bought a jetusolis 6500K and a 5000K in a heartbeat without checking maukka’s tests.

It appears that the 5000K has natively a bit better blue rendition and the 6500K better red rendition from the tests but, probably because of the LED tint’s influence, by eyes colors with red (red, brown, orange) are popping more with the 5000K than with the 6500K, and the blue shades looks richer with the 6500K than with the 5000K.
The 6500K has a tendancy to flatten the illuminated scene more than the 5000K but shapes of blue objects with the 6500K seems more 3D despite that it has natively less blue colors rendition, maybe again because of the blue tint of the LED that is enhancing blue colors.
Round copper objects look rounder with the 5000K which has lower red colors rendition/fidelity than the 6500K.
The blue anodized Jaxman E2 looks rounder with deep blue shades with the 6500K while it is a bit greyed out and flattened with the 5000K.

It sounds a bit akward.

Generally people are reporting that high CRI has a 3D effect, but both jetusolis are very high CRI and it’s the cooler one that globally flatten a scene with very different colors.
I wish I could test this with a room full of objects with red and adjoining colors and another one with blue and adjoining colors.

There is probably metamerism involved into this due to tint’s LED or spectral composition of its emitted light. I would wish to hear maukka’s opinion about it as he has probably more colorimetric knowledges than me.

@DaveTheDude: which one? Jetusolis or JetuE21A?

[Clemence]

The CRI pits the emitter against an ‘ideal’ radiant of its same color temperature. So a 6500k’s CRI numbers will be compared against another 6500k source, and a 5000k’s CRI numbers will be compared against a 5000k source. Since 5000k is a warmer spectral balance, it will have more red, and 6500k have more blue. So just because the 6500k shows more R9 doesn’t mean it actually has more R9 than a 5000k.