What blade did you EDC today?

Might as well throw my 2 cents in concerning copies, clones, fakes, & such.

ā€™My standardsā€™ for purchasing Chinese Knives: . (ymmv)

  • 1. If a Chinese company falsely uses the name or trademark of another company on their knife, box, &/or paperwork it is a complete fake & thievery.
    Not a ā€œcloneā€ or ā€œcopyā€ā€¦ just a fake.
    Personally I would never knowingly buy one of these.
  • 2. A 100% exact copy of a known design, but not using the Original Companies name.
    I personally am not going to knowingly buy one of these either.
    But, that being saidā€¦. I am fairly familiar with all things Benchmade so recognizing a BM copy is not gonna be a huge problem. However, I am not that familiar with most other folders by different companies. And I am not going to do massive research to try & determine if something I like may be a copy.
  • 3. Knives ā€˜inspiredā€™ by other designs but not copies.
    I have no problem buying any of these. If you get right down to it most knives are inspired in some way by other knives.
  • 4. Original designs.
    I feel the same as rcwiily , I have no problem buying them at all.

Isti.

Nice knife.
Iā€™ve got a G 733 in mail (this week. Maybe)
(I prefer the 733 blade shape ??.)

So. I have.
a Genuine. Original. VERSION.of a Ganzo Firebird folding knife.
to sit alongside my Genuine version of a Y-Start JYN02
D2 blade.

How lucky am I.
ALL these genuine versions of themselves.
Regardless of cost.

If a knife Feels well. cuts well, is of decent materials.
and it ainā€™t bothering the owners and buyers of any others.
Whereā€™s the problem.

OK whatā€™s next?. Please NOT clone torches.

One thing to mentionā€¦.the copyright on the axis lock is up. So as far as I can tell, it is now free to use by anyone.

@ Macka17

You need to get the Genuine. Original. VERSION of THIS GoComma!!

The fit nā€™ finish of this knife is comparable to ANY knife I own, and I own more than a few!

The only thing lacking on this knife is the pocket clip. It is a bit wonky but with a couple of strategically placed bends it works pretty good. :wink:

It is advertised as D2 steel. I have not verified that, but I have verified it has great edge holding properties. It is hollow ground blade.

In different sales I have paid from $8.99 to $10.99 for this knife. They were $9.26 yesterday & were $11.99 when I just checked.

Yeahā€¦ to any doubters, I know full well it is a Chinese knife & that it sells for super cheap. But that does not change what I have written about it. It is the best deal on a decent knife I have ever run across.

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And if you want a good light duty ā€˜gentlemens knifeā€™, THIS NO-NAME seems to be a ā€œGenuine. Original. VERSIONā€ also.


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Fit nā€™ finish is excellent. Blade is San Mai damascus. A very neat little pocket knife. Highly recommended tooā€¦ by me. :wink:

That is correct DBSS. :+1: ā€¦ IIRC It expired in 2007.

Also, I ā€™thinkā€™ I remember the Spyderco ā€˜Holeā€™ is part of their Trade Markā€¦ so it never expires. ā€œThinkā€ is the key word in that statement howeverā€¦ :smiley:

I do know that many years ago Benchmade made a few folders that used the Hole and they paid Spyderco royalties for the privilege. :+1:

Thank you for that one. I totally forgot I wanted one of those. Off to Ebay. :wink:

I also ordered one of those GoComma flippers based on your feedback. I hope it will arrive soon. :slight_smile:

I remember the big drama when Benchmade released the original version of the Skirmish. That was a very serious dispute over the number of holes, their sizes and the order of them. :person_facepalming:
I really liked the look of the 1st version. Itā€™s interesting how the added 4th hole changed the overall look of that knife.

Iā€™m grateful that none of the automobile makers patented the wheel. I would hate to drive a car with oval or rectangular wheelsā€¦ :smiley:

You must be quick because theyā€™re getting rare. My camo version can be considered as a ā€œlimited editionā€, ā€œspecial editionā€ or ā€œlimited runā€ now using the vocabulary of the prestigious manufacturers for charging extra 50 bucks. :wink:

Thank you! This Firebird version also comes with skeletonized steel liners so it weights even less than the 1st version.

Be careful mentioning the Ganzo G733 here! :wink: One of the fanboys might attack you in a rant just for owning a Stretch like design with an axis-lock! :person_facepalming:

This is exactly the way I fell about it, not just with the Chinese knives.

Fixed that for you.

Isti.

ā€œā€Be careful mentioning the Ganzo G733 here! Wink.
One of the fanboys might attack you in a rant
just for owning a Stretch like design with an axis-lock!ā€œā€

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The reason I bought that one was I wanted to try the different blade ā€œshapeā€.
Iā€™m still not sure?.
Plus Iā€™d have that axis- lock on all my knives given a choice.

NO folder can be 100% trusted in real hard work.
THAT is done if you have any sense, by a solid fixed blade.
I prefer my Martiini, then an axe or Machete for next size up.
Have you ever seen ankles and wrists/back of hands
when folders have ā€œfoldedā€ or slipped off job.
I carry my folder. Martiini. Axe, and chain saw in back of ute.
in that order.
Iā€™m not one who wants to say, ā€œI did thisā€¦. with my folderā€
Iā€™d rather say my chain saw did a lovely neat job on that wood hey.

They all have their place. donā€™t push it. Only ā€œyouā€ will suffer.
(Not you personally, you in general).
Have fun.

Teacher.

Unfortunately I have 4 x 3ish inch blades now. 1 x VG110. 2 x D2
and a Chinese 440C.
With smaller and longer around them.

Iā€™m trying to find that Go Comma 2 +mm blade in Orange with better steel than the 3
grade. Itā€™s too soft.
They are a nice looking toy though.
I got a little SRM 6029 LUC with orange plates and 8cr/440c? steel.
Take off clip it a nice key knife (5.5mm blade. 13mm open. Liner lock.)

Itā€™ll take a lot of doing to find a better key blade than my old SOG Micro2
though, but Iā€™m trying.
Waiting for a 6040 in mail to check that out.

You want a coupla. Iā€™m getting inundated with those ā€œIā€™ll never buy any of those stupid little thingsā€. Yea.
Gotta unload b4 missus sees them.

Like I have said alreadyā€¦ if they are the same quality as the first one I got I do not think you will be disappointed. :wink:
And I am counting heavily on them being the same qualityā€¦. I ordered 17 more. They are all in shipment nowā€¦ā€¦ so fingers crossed. :wink:

Your rightā€¦ that ā€˜extra holeā€™ in the Skirmish made it look totally different.

Best I recall the original Grip & Mini Grip had the Spyderco Hole in the blade for opening. BM paid Spyderco royalties for using that ā€˜Holeā€™.
Then BM went to the Oval hole on the Gripsā€¦. I actually liked that better. I also liked/like the Mini Grip much better than the Grip. In fact I did not like the Grip at all. It was too big & just felt awkward to me. The Mini Grip on the other hand was just perfect in every wayā€¦ to me.

There were a couple other BM models that used the Spyderco Hole too & BM paid royalties. I canā€™t remember atm which models they were though.

I agree completely about the automobile makers tooā€¦. :smiley:

Iā€™m not pushing my luck hard using my folders either. Sometimes using a small hand saw makes more sense than chopping with a knife.

Anyway, I had some chainsaw work in the backyard this morning so I gave my Stihl some exercise.
I donā€™t own the Ganzo G733 but I have the G734 (the liner-lock version). So here it is with the Stihl in the background:

It baffles me that this could be genuine Damascus steel, given the price. It begs the question of it being some final stage cosmetic treatment to the steel simulating the Damascus aesthetic or if they really managed to come up with a cheap process to make authentic Damascus style steel.

Nopeā€¦ it IS NOT a ā€œcosmetic treatmentā€, I can verify that 100%. It is San Mai damascus.

Iā€™ll be back in a minute with a link to explain moreā€¦.

@ xevious ā€¦ Here yaā€™ go:
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Nice looking knives.

  • What is the one on the left??

Actually ā€œTrue Damascus steelā€ is a blended mix of Different materials.
Secrets of, long lost in the mists of time. NOT Laminations.

Modern ā€œso-called Damascus is multiple versions of ā€laminated) steel alloys.

Read up on it. Itā€™s interesting. I started on my Japanese Cooks knives yrs ago.
Too brittle a core steel (mainly Carbon based) alloy. Gives you Super sharp and ā€œchipping brittleā€ blades.

The skills are in getting the right grade of core steel with soft, but NOT too soft outer layers.
I use a 3in VG10 core Iseya Hammered Paring kitchen knife as my small field knife in pack at camp, along with a Tojiro 6in Petty, and 7in Santoku All VG10.
SUPER sharp. not brittle with right mfg (heat treatment. they vary)
Theyā€™d be the cheapest, proven, GOOD Grade Japanese blades on market
I also have some $500/600 plus too.These are $45 to 75AUD del.
They leave ALL other types of kitchen blades for dead.
Try one.
I have 45+ yrs of Wusthof German blades. They now sit in drawer.

Sorry, back on track. Folders.
Iā€™ve just ordered a coupla those Burlwood laminates for pressieā€™s.
I wouldnā€™t use smooth straight handles knives myself.

I prefer a coupla moulds or finger grips in mine.
Over the yrs a coupla have bitten me with wet.oily, bloody, smooth handles.

Thank you for sharing that. My best knives are Japanese, but not Damascus. (one Shunā€¦meh) So if I buy a Santoko, here is good?: https://www.hocho-knife.com/iseya-g-series-33-layer-vg-10-damascus-santoku-knife-180mm/