What did you mod today?

When I replaced the FET in my MT09R and MT03 they both having the dim glowing led error. With original FET they were completely off.

I have this error on one of my Q8 with Luxeon MZ and stock driver.

I would say to look at the 7135 for that dim glow, the MOSFET is turned off at low levels so any power coming through has to be due to the 7135 leaking. :wink: (gut feeling, don’t know this for 100% sure)

Y’all replaced one FET for a different huge one (’800 for an ’808)? Betcha leakage current when “off” is gonna be proportionately higher, too.

Ever stick a non-dimmable CFL bulb in a socket controlled by a dimmer, even if you don’t intend to dim it but just slam it on/off? Even when “off”, it’ll flicker at random, like having your own lightning-mode built in.

That teeny-tiny leakage current slowly builds up charge in a capacitor in the CFL, enough to just let it “discharge” with a quick dim pulse.

Can probably be fixed with a resistor across the LEDs that’d suck down maybe 1mA or so. So… 3V, 1mA, about 3kΩ oughtta do it.

That way even 0.1mA leakage current would tend to go through the resistor first, and not even let the voltage rise to Vγ to light the LEDs.

None of those drivers have 7135. Just the fet changed and for the lower channel I even removed the small fet and still glowed. So I think Lightbringer has the answer.

Yay! I win!

Wieselflinkpro’s Q8 is what made me think of that response. :wink:

If the driver doesn’t have a gate pull down resistor (10k), that might fix it. It’s an ATtiny thing.

I built 2x Convoy s2+ with LD-4 Drivers. One with Nichia sw45 9080 and the other luxeon V 4000k.



I try both, and the nichia it does not look pink tint as other people say (not very impresive). Any form of check if the led is correct?

Sometimes I launch off into projects that, in retrospect, I might should have not done. This last one is a fairly good example but not a total waste of time as it turned out.

Some background… my EDC light that I made from Scratch used to have the tight Khatod quad optics, I had bought several while at it as they came from England I think. The light morphed into a standard quad with LH351D emitters and the Khatod’s sit here unused. Stage 2 of the background, Will34 here on the forum was selling off some lights… I bought an X6 and Convoy M1 from him. Both of these were already modified, the X6 into a triple and the M1 a quad with a Khatod optic. Neither was really performing all that well so I rebuilt both of them. The M1 was somewhat oddly done with a T-Pad Quad MCPCB and what appear to be XP-G3 emitters that have damaged domes from the ultra tight Khatod optics. A copper plug and a top section of SS filled the head. No idea why SS, but it was in there…

I hadn’t worked on the lathe in a while, so it was a good project to refresh my amateurish skills. I had a piece of copper, WAY bigger than needed, so I carved it down. lol

I tend to like the challenge of making a heat sink that follows the internal lines of the head, and in this case, fully supports the optic all the way up to the glass. :smiley:

Like most optics, the Khatod has an injection mold protrusion which made me hand carve some space from the top to get the optic to seat fully…

But what emitter? I thought about using sliced LH351D in 80 CRI trim, but the entry to the TIR’s in these Khatod’s is quite small, so I chose to use 4 White Flat’s and built a new driver for em using a lesser MOSFET and A6 firmware.

Hot spot is defined, the little quad makes 2510 lumens at 31.5Kcd, pulling 18.5A at the tail from a fresh charged 30Q.

Seems like a waste of White Flats in a way, but it makes for a unique little light and overall I think I am happy with it. :slight_smile:

Apart from the inefficiency of the White Flat compared to the bigger die leds (2500 lumen can be made with i.e. a 3V XHP50.2 with under 10A), it looks like a nice performing flashlight with a pretty nice beam.

I may have to rescue the Flats and put sliced Samsungs in their place…

Colors should be very vivid (intensive).
The tint should become pink at higher currents (above 2A). This should be very noticeable when you compare it to another flashlight.
Where did you buy the Nichia?

Swapped in a new lens on my Jetbeam TCR-01. The old one was cracked at the edge from when I’d put on the bezel too snug.

Unfortunately, I didn’t measure the lens before ordering replacements. Ordered a mixed selection of 22mm lenses when what I really needed was 20mm. Whoops! :open_mouth:

Fortunately, one of the lenses I ordered was UCLP acrylic, which I was able to file to the correct size. :slight_smile:

Pulled the White Flats out of the little M1 I built yesterday, will apply them where they can be used for throw like they oughta be. :wink: I stuck sliced LH351D 80 CRI 5000K Samsungs on a different T-Pad board and used them. They make around 2500 lumens with a larger hot spot and nice neutral to warm white beam. More confluent with the big copper pill under em, works for me. :smiley:

And much less current I hope?

15.25A on a fairly full 30Q. 2660 lumens.

The efficiency difference is not day and night then (about 25%)

sorry 808 was a typing error

I also found out today the MOSFET on the driver is a faked one, not original SIR800 some sort of chineese copy

I have measured the FET used on the red MT09R driver
its labeled like the original Vishay cant tell any difference

@4.7V Gate
I got 38.3mV 10A —>3.8mOhm resistance

@3V Gate
I got 165mV 10A —> 16.5mOhm

@2.5V which the original should have around 2.8mOhm as its gate voltage gets very deep till 2V pretty stable
I get only 2A with reasonable input volatge and the stunning drop on the FET of 1.1V
so here the FET has 550mOhm

Conclusion

the FET HL use is definately some sort of fake which wont work on any 1S driver well
with 4.7V on gate it has a usable resistance but still this FET is like the MCU fake

this is just the Turbo static power loss on 60% with switching losses this may be even more depending how fast the FET switches
the bad resistance on lower voltage definately points on a lot longer phase where the FET is not fully switched through

Well you have to consider though Jos, de-doming/slicing takes a toll on efficiency as well, so the normal Samsung emitter would fare better it just won’t fit under this Khatod optic cleanly. This is made for XP-E I think, the opening to each TIR is shallow and quite small. It’s a 24mm 25.4mm Optic (PL115106, narrow) with it’s legs wider than our standard quad boards, the only ones I’ve found that work are the T-Pad’s because they have an open slot instead of a hole.

They say it’s a 10º, tested with the XP-E and compatible with XP variants and the XP-L HI.