Right, comparation between modern cars and cars that were developed 50 years ago is defently apples vs oranges.
Go to the MB website, choose any model, check engine code at wikipedia - and we can continue this discussion.
Engine code? Wiki? What are you talking about?
There is nothing to discuss if you can’t make a coherent argument.
When there is a big data, coherent arguments are not required.
When you can do few clicks and check out how many spare parts are were sold per each sold car. How many versions of compressors, HPP and injectors have been changed just in one engine generation. How many employers do this job and how many tons of broken parts are sent by each dealer service each month back to the manufacture.
Yes, I would like to know which engine can reach 1.5M km (not reachable for many trucks nowadays). Please choose it here: List of Mercedes-Benz engines - Wikipedia
You mean over a BILLION cars/trucks need engine parts? WOW. That’s something unheard off.
Obviously you don’t have a clue about engines other then nonsense.
Mileage? Just a few selling databases.
116 diesel cars with over half million kilometers. Including several over a million to 1.6 million km.
Car.gr - Αυτοκίνητα, ταξινόμηση: χιλιόμετρα (πολλά πρώτα)>500000&fuel_type=2&offer_type=sale
3116 diesels over 320000 kilometers
600 trucks with over 1.5 million kilometers.
I could search hundreds of other databases but I’ve wasted enough time with you.
Not one of those trucks that I looked at in your own links say anything about any possible engine/transmission replacements, so that fact alone negates your argument of internal combustion outlasting battery.
Cheers David
What kind of stupid straw argument is that? If you don’t know what a straw argument is, look it up.
There is no such thing as ANY battery ANYWHERE in ANY vehicle lasting even a 1/3 of the high mileage cars and trucks. NONE . ZERO. Not even phony big fish stories and wild imaginations of online fan boys.
Meanwhile there are literally millions of cars/trucks with high mileages everywhere on the planet.
One more thing that is still a fantasy in the battery world……Mercedes cars normal is a maintenance list for 241,000 km service. Routinely surpassed by either gas or diesel. I actually sold my ’95 in ’05 with 400k and he drove it 70k a year until it started to get serious rust.
Vast majority of cars are scrapped because of rust, accidents or people getting bored of them, rarely for worn out engines.
The fact is that it was about the life of the batteries, not the cars, it was stated they would only last a short time, well just replace the batteries just as the internal combustion engine is replaced.
“rarely for worn out engines” that is because the engines are replaced.
It seems you are a bigger fan boy of polluting internal engines than I am of electric cars.
Nuff said, Im outa here.
Cheers David
Edit:- Jay Leno’s 1909 Baker Electric still operates on its original Edison cells, that’s 110years!!
Yeah.
Electric engines crush internal combustion engines by far on power, torque, reliability, efficiency, and of course, durability.
What are you talking about?
Nobody is interested in your experience with 25yo car with engine mechanics that was actually developed in 50-60th. You even wont be able to use this old dirty station in EU and many other countries.
Choose any modern euro-6 engine, and I will try to share some real statistics.
Again, you have no info about output of this 400-500k mileage engines. You just dont care.
More gibberish combined with a bit of “you don’t care” whining garbage topped with more straw arguments.
This has nothing to do with the electric motor then with the life expectancy of batteries.
At this point, they are inferior in life expectancy to any normal car. They may get better, or perhaps not. We’ll see.
“At this point, they are inferior in life expectancy to any normal car.”
“Jay Leno’s 1909 Baker Electric still operates on its original Edison cells, that’s 110years!!”
How much more life expectancy do you require??
No strike that question because I know you will just put some bait answer in.
Bored now…
Toemato Tohmahto. The cheapest I got this year was $1.77/Gal. Thought I had time traveled. I honestly couldn’t care less because I drive like a maniac and my mpg’s are due to suffer.
Me too.
I think Spartan is on the money.
A friend of mine has 3 trucks with over 2 million miles each and they are all running as of today. I don’t think you will get that out of a set of batteries.
I’m not sure that is completely true yet, when you consider power to weight. You also need to consider battery weight with the weight of the motor.
Also, most of the world doesn’t have access to (fish killing 
) hydro electricity like Quebec, and uses coal fired generators to produce electricity to charge batteries. So how much does that really help anything.
Engine life, I rebuilt a Ford 300 (4.9) 6 cylinder for a 1980 F100 that lasted 22.5 years before it developed a rod knock and the 2nd auto trans lost 3rd gear. Found a 86 F150 with a four speed manual on the floor to replace it. This truck has same engine (4.9) but has a rod knock so I baby it till I can pull and replace with another I rebuilt for my work van. Been knocking on start up till oil pressure builds up, has been for the last seven years but gets almost 18 MPG, not bad for a 33 year old motor with 240K on the clock. I change oil often, it is the life of the motor. So for me, electric vehicles, nah, I don't think they will last as long.
Anything good about the Audi Etron SUV? I don’t think it is available to buy yet but I saw something about a pre-order option.
Are you able to get new modern and safe car with such motor?
How long youll be able to use your small car until you will catch people from some green political party that have organized miting right in the clouds from gas and oil that have not burned?
I wonder how conservative you are. Your experience is great for people from 50s. But if someone little younger searching car nowadays, he is not able to repeat your experience. They would like something smaller, faster and more safety, than track with tracktor engine. And 99% of cars that meet this conditions have aluminium engine block which can last 150-200k kms.
And this is common at least for last 20 years. I didnt want to leave this comment, but to prevent someone young who will read this thread and was ready to get new MB (and hoping it will last long) - no, they could last long when your grandfather was young.
I like my cars to go vroom. It scares the plebs.
Hows it going back there?
Filling up here in FIN at about 7,82USD/U.S.Gal or 1,83EUR/L 