Best budget smartphone?

Last November, I got the 4gig/64gig Moto X4 for what works out to be ~150 USD. I think this is the last in the style of phones I like: small (around 5”), full HD screen, fingerprint sensor up front, headphone jack, and IPX-8 waterproofing. Love Moto Actions as well. A cousin got the 6gig/64gig version for about USD 130 last month. Really dissatisfied with newer phones growing larger by the day and moving fingerprint sensors to the back and skipping headphone jacks.

That’s the way the industry is headed. There are very few phones with under 5.5” screens and headphone jacks. It’s even harder to find pvi res with styluses (Samsung Note or LG Stylo). They are still out there, but that are usually lower end models.

Y’know just how annoying that is? Ie, you see some chickie with a nice round bum, bounded only by sheer stretchy material of her pants, nigh perfection… except for what looks like a clipboard wedged in her back pocket. :person_facepalming:

:smiley:

I never hold the cell to my ear. Now instead of holding a clipboard to my ear…….I’m talking to it near my chin.

That’s why I always think those follks have a sandwich phone. Bite! Yum yum…

Anyways, my Sony XZ1Compact still works well. No need for full hd on a 4.6” screen, that would only drain the battery faster.
I only wish they added the silicone case right to it as the alu back is quite slipperey, the one I gotfrom bearguest is close to perfect for my needs.

It’s what I always do. I bought the best phone from two or three years ago. The smartphones have very little change between one year and another, it’s basically marketing hype so you can change yours. They are always in good condition and I do not make an initial investment of more than 500 bucks. I will never pay more than 200 bucks for a phone.

Any old flagship is usually better than any chinese budget phone.

When I was shopping for phones in 2016 I was looking for a Samsung Note 5, I noticed a couple of things. 1, even after a year on the market, they were still over $400 for a new in box 64 GB (you had to get that capacity… no micro sd). Too expensive! So, I looked for Note 4’s and from the reviews, there wasn’t much difference between them, a slightly better camera, 1 GB more RAM, improved S Pen and a faster CPU. You gave up expandable storage, removable battery, and a more durable phone. I got a near-new Note 4 on auction for $225 shipped. When my Note 4 was dying this year, the Note 8 was out but was still $500-600 for a new in box. Then the Note 9 came out and the Note 8 pretty much depreciates by $150 even $200 overnight. I got a factory unlocked Note 8 in box for $385. It just got patched to Pi too. It’s amazing. I wonder how the Note 9 will depreciate when the Note 10 is launched in 4 months?

just got the oneplus 6 and I am super happy with it. really nice phone.

Honestly though, the best budget phone is the one you do not buy. :smiley:

Update on my Moto E5 Play:

The phone is good enough for me, but it doesn't vibrate very hard.

I have it on a flat desk, and when it vibrates, I barely notice it.

That's the only problem I have so far, and I like it a lot more than my Moto E2.

I’m really happy with my Moto G5S Plus that I’ve had since November 2017. It has everything I want; great battery life (Iused to get 8-10 hours screen time when it was new, after a year and a half its down to 6-8 hours).The Snapdragon 625 is no powerhouse but has a reputation for being extremely effecient, 3GB RAM is fine, SD card slot, headphone jack, nice screen (5.5” is the largest I’ll ever go for). None of these stupid extra gimmicks or the lame “headphone jack is outdated” excuse. The camera was just okay… Until I installed gcam with HDR+ and now I get pixel-esque shots. My only complaint is the GPS sucks but I don’t use it anyway.

i got tired of trying to figure out all the android makers, models, years, versions, bugs, fixes…

what i did was get a 2016 iphone 6

it works well and was like $150 on amazon

wle

As always:

The best budget phone is the one you don’t buy.

What to do if your phone gets slow:

1. Empty your phone storage by backing up your photos/videos/files to your computer, and then erasing them on your phone.

2. Put your photos/vids on your microSD card.

Reason: The more your flash storage inside of your phone is filled, the slower that storage is, the slower the phone feels.

3. Replace your battery. Can cost between 20$-90$, but are 100% worth it.
4. Get rid of apps like Facebook, or Twitter.
Replace them with lighter apps like Swipe.

5. Uninstall apps you don’t need, or disable them.

6. Install this:

This for Youtube:

No ads, downloads possible. Perfect for mobile. Extremely fast too.
Just search for alternative apps here.

Last option: Buy a used phone, and replace its battery!

Easiest way is to focus on Android One devices or google pixel phones.
Then choose

A long time ago I bought a Leagoo M8 Pro, after rooting it and getting rid of all pre-installed apps and services it is a great budget phone. I think I paid about 40$ US 2 years back.

Swappa can be an option for bargains. I’m posting this via a really nice 8gb/128gb carrier unlocked oneplus 6 I got via swappa for a bit more than half of the original price. Nice upgrade from my 4+ year old 64gb oneplus one but the a/b partition scheme can be a pain to flash/recovery/root. Currently running havoc.

edit: some may not consider a $300 decrease in the price of a like-new phone a ‘budget’ option, I don’t consider a $100+ flashlight a ‘budget’ option. To each their own. My phone is my only internet access after at&t failure to provide reliable landline service (over a ten year period on average a month per year with no phone or dsl with no discount, paying for service not received due to water infiltration in the wires), and considering I have relied on my oneplus one for over four years after having it survive drops up to five feet to a concrete floor (in a hybrid case) I consider the op6 i’m using now, purchased for what I paid for my opo a bargain. Both the opo and op6 were rooted to give me options. I like being able to use my device as I choose. I use substratum, currently with swift black, and screen on time is excellent.

To me a budget phone would be an Android under 50 dollars. Medium price level would be 80-250, high at 300-550 and anything above is something I would probably not purchase. 1K for a phone in 2019 is unrealistic to me (but I do understand the appeal to own the latest and greatest).

to me budget phone is phone under $200, and xiaomi redmi note 7 is the best option here

if you want something higher, google pixel 3A is a winner

and go higher, basically all phone are the same

I bought a 128GB Google Pixel 1 in “very good” condition on eBay in December 2018 for $170. It replaced a hand-me-down (free) iPhone 3GS from 2009 that still works fine, but which maxxed out at iOS 6 and thus won’t run modern apps.

That was a bit more than I originally intended to spend, but I wanted plenty of storage and no serious damage as I’ll be carrying this phone for years to come. In reality, I’m using only about 30GB of storage even with dozens of apps, but too much space is a good thing. The phone looks nearly new with only a small scratch on one corner. Screen is flawless, etc.

The original Pixel is still getting monthly Android updates as soon as they are released and I upgraded to Android Pi (9) after activating the phone. Performance is still great, though the Pixel 1 camera is not quite as nice as the one on Pixel 2/3. It’s still unbelievably good when compared with my old phone :wink: .

It’s not perfect, by any means, but 6 months ago it was a good value for a phone that I didn’t have to root in order to get the latest operating system. If you don’t mind rooting a cheaper Android, then by all means go for it, but you will probably have problems and some of those problems may be unsolvable.

BTW: Don’t get the original Pixel XL; it had screen problems.

The best “used” values are changing constantly as new phones come out and supplies of “old” phones come in and out of stock at refurbishers. The original Pixel is probably not such a great value today, but I’m mainly pointing out that used phones can be an excellent option if you do some homework and find a trustworthy seller. My next phone will likely be used as well.

The Pixel 3a appears to be a good value for a “new” phone and will probably be far more popular than the Pixel 3.

The OnePlus phones have traditionally been good values. They use near-stock Android and get rapid security updates, but:

# OnePlus 6 went upmarket slightly, but OnePlus 7 jumped upmarket substantially. The company has admitted that these will no longer be mid-tier phones :frowning: .

# Older OnePlus phones have maintained insane resell values, making used 4/5/6 models rather poor values.

Though all phones are untrustworthy to some degree, any phone that doesn’t get iOS or Android updates should be considered to be someone else’s; you should not do sensitive or financial activities on such a device. Cheap phones do not receive updates as a rule and even those that do may be updated more than a year after Google releases the patch; too late to help anyone.

I’ll also mention that a security research firm recently tested the 30 most popular “financial” apps from banks, credit card companies, etc and found that all of them, both iOS and Android versions, were insecure and poorly written. Some were worse than others, but none sufficiently followed industry standard security practices. They easily hacked into all of them.

Lastly and as others have noted, if your phone is slow, try removing the crap. My Pixel 1 is fast and smooth in Android 9, unless I add more than a couple of widgets to the screen. Widgets will kill performance like nothing else. If you don’t need an app, remove it. If you don’t use a screen icon or widget, remove it.