X̶L̶6̶0̶0̶9̶ LM2577S-ADJ CC/CV SEPIC module (A.K.A. LM2577 CC/CV boost buck converter)

Oops! I’m typing on the phone so it gets wonky sometimes. That’s a good idea to get more efficiency out of these converters.

Please edit your post and fix it Sirstinky (click ;-) here if you will), add the closing bracket at the end of line 15 where you will find:

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If those schottky diodes are SS34s I'll probably remove them both and install a slightly different package SK54 or SB1040 at the output. Then I could use that SS34 pair to improve the current 2x SS34 + 2x SS24 bridge rectifier I made a year or two ago for testing with the transformer. :-D

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Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:49

Wellp, just for s&g I pulled the trigger on a few of these. Might work nicely for a desk light, if it dials down to 200mA but can also go up to 2A or so.

In my experience with XL4015 CC/CV buck modules they can dial down as much as you want Lightbringer, firefly levels or even lower. It is very important to use logarithmic taper potentiometers for this because we're adjusting perceived brightness out of drive current.

Yeh, you don’t want it to ramp like a RJ02… :laughing:

When (if?) you get yours, lemme know if it’s true buck/boost. The 2577, well, I’ve only seen in plain boost config with a single inductor, and you’d need an actual transformer for buck/boost. Or, you end up with negative output from positive input (and both these grounds are in common and imply positive/positive).

And if you look at that .pdf, all the sample circuits have 12V-16V input for 18V output. And the only SEPIC circuits in there use transformers, not plain inductors.

The converter's topology looks like this one found in the manual, so I think it's buck boost no doubt.

By the way, a transformer basically are two coupled coils. An XL6009 can handle its coil pair for it to operate like variable transformer, or so I think.

Yeah, we'll see.

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But there’s zero coupling between the two coils.

Unno, maybe they’ve got some trick circuit that lets it be a buck/boost, but…

Like I said, when (if) I get mine, I’ll put it to the test. Would actually be nice if it were a true b-b. Lots lots lots more flexible for the stuff I could do with it.

SEPIC doesn’t require coupling between the coils, although you can often reduce the space taken up by the coils if they are coupled (which increases their effective inductance) and thereby build a smaller conversion module.

See here:

and scroll down to “Using a Transformer”.

As usual with inexpensive Chinese modules, the simplest way to find out is to buy one and see what it does :slight_smile:

Wellp, mine are currently (haha, get it?) in “pre-shipment”, so maybe by June…

My modules were shipped already. It is a good thing that Correos (main Spanish postal operator by far) reached an agreement with Sinotrans Limited a few years ago, I can choose Ali Saver or Ali Standard and the majority of times this means Sinotrans - Correos which comes home quite fast.

I'll be able to take a quick peek at the modules next week. ;-)

:-)

Well, a little faster than expected:

So it matches the title well, it is based on an LM2577-ADJ integrated circuit. The board layout is a little bit different, namely at the switcher's leads for obvious reasons. Whether it is buck boost or not it a mistery is to me until I try it with my PSU, but it should.

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I just got mine yesterday, too. Didn’t mess with them yet, though.

Underside pictures. Notice the current sense track, right at the voltage trimpot's feet.

I've quick tested one. Fed with 7.24V from my PSU I've been able to adjust the output all the way up to 26.9V, and all the way down to 1.237V according to my Bside/Zotek ZT102 multimeter. Voltage adjustment is sort of logarithmic, took a lot of turns down from 3V. Hence, whoever devised this module knows something. ;-)

The unmarked chip next to the 78L05 regulator must be an LF351 or LM351 amplifier for the current sense thing. Compared to other modules this thing is using a quite low resistance current sense track, like 10mΩ or so.

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Yeh, I mentioned that up nyah (#9). Nice.

Kewl, so it is a b/b converter…

They sound useful enough to get a pile more. :laughing:

This LM2577S single switcher seems uncommon to me, I've had it on my wishlist for ages but finally decided it was time to give it a try.

Another buck boost topology:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-Step-Up-Down-Boost-buck-Voltage-Converter-Module-LM2577S-LM2596S-Power-ST/172244575233

That one has end current percentage turn lamp setting and two switcher ICs: LM2577S + LM2596S. Besides this, the above board is marked as XW036FR4, whereas the one discussed here is marked as XW036NFR4 (check it in my #28 reply).

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Wow… buy 5, get 1 at 5% off! That’s a whopping 1% off the total!

Now Maw kin git that operashun…

So whut’re the 3 trimpots for? Voltage, current, and…?

3rd trimpot is usually for end of charge (low current) detection adjustment

That last kind of converter theorically has a lower efficiency as it's made with a boost converter followed by a buck converter so you have to account for the two stages losses

Hmm, that can come in handy.

The setting on the OP boards is a fixed ratio instead of adjustable, then.

Still trying to figure out where the turn-signal comes in…