[Review] Airpro DC7

Thank you.

So No?

Five quick clicks of the switch and the breathing switch light is disabled. I am very pleased with the two I purchased. I am also the proud owner of two Q8’s as well. Gotta love the built in charger on the Airpro DC7. I prefer the eye that never sleeps for ease of location in the dark.

Not got the DC7 yet.
Can’t stand the PWM on My Astrolux FT02 breathing light.

Yes, no... Not the same MCU therefore not compatible.

How about a Q8 driver board install?

Would it be as easy as that ?

possible but I don’t know for sure.

I asked Barry if Sofirn was making these, and he said no, and didn’t know who Airpro was.

Thank for the reply.

Definitely not Sofirn. These guys cloned the Q8 and driver design - no need for Sofirn to do that. Looks like firmware was ported.

I sent Barry the Amazon link and asked him before this review came out. The battery tube knurling is similar to Thorfire’s design which Sofirn does make, and all the other similarities, which made me think it was possibly Sofirn. He said exact that, “looks like a clone”

You’d lose onboard charging, no? Kinda defeats the purpose…

Still waiting on mine from the US.

Just wondering if breathing light is PWM my Astrolux FT02 has it, drives me crazy at night.

Aamof, I think it is. Don’t recall specifix as to how (waving the light around when it was “breathing”, etc.), but I did notice a rather slow pwm.

Another reason why I turned it off…

After receiving my Airpro DC7, I would like to clarify a couple of peculiarities of the UI that might interest prospective buyers. (At least, these are true on my specimen. Please comment if yours works differently.)

First, in stepless ramping mode, the Airpro operates similar to Narsil, but with a notable exception. A press and hold from off turns the light on to moonlight, as you would expect. But if you continue to hold, nothing changes: the light does not ramp up. If you release the button, and then press and hold again, the light also does not ramp up: it simply turns off. A single click from off turns on the light at the level of the last turn off (excluding any turn off from the direct access moonlight level). So, let’s say you turn the light off on high, and go to bed. Later you get up to check on something, and you need a little more than moonlight, but don’t want to ruin your night vision. If you press and hold, you get moonlight, with no means to ramp up from there. If you single click, you get high (the last setting), and then must press and hold again (possibly twice) to ramp down. This is a problem that has long since been overcome, not just by programmable firmware, but by Zebralight, Olight, et al.

Second, in the stepped ramping mode, clicking the button once will take you to the last level used. If you click again, within more than one second but less than two, the light will ramp up (always and only up) one level. Repeat, and it goes up one more level, etc. But if you click too quickly in succession the UI responds as if it was a multi-click (which changes modes, goes to strobe, locks out, etc., depending on the number of clicks), and if you click too slowly, the light simply turns off. So let’s say you settle on medium (for more than two seconds), but then would like to increase the level to high. Being familiar with Narsil and Anduril, you press and hold the button, but that does not work. The light goes down (always and only down) one level, and stops there, even if you continue holding the button down. If you release the button and then press and hold again, the light goes down one more level. But there is no way to go up a level, once the light is on, without turning the light off, and then back on, followed within 1-2 seconds by a second click.

To say that the Airpro is an imperfect port of Narsil seems an understatement, and I cannot for the life of me understand how this is considered to be a simplified or more intuitive UI. But, if you can live with these quirks, I agree with the other favorable comments regarding build quality, built-in charging, etc.

Chuck

Thanks Chuck for the clear description. That would spoil the UI for me totally, I want to be able to operate my lights at low levels without going through high first. We are past that for years now.

And welcome to BLF! :slight_smile:

Yes, agree there - thanx Chuck! As the author of Narsil, it was high priority not to not get blasted with a high setting - the lowest level ramping access from OFF with the ability to ramp up was a "must".

Sofirn's own implementation of ramping works similar as this DC7 - seems to be a terrible trend in manufacturers.

Also as equally important - a dbl click should be very limited to not interfere with multiple single clicks - this was also a "must" in the Narsil UI.

I feel like we are talk'n airplanes, not flashlights - hhmmm...

Is flashing to Narsil or Anduril a viable option?

Think I answered this at least twice here -- nope, different MCU is used. For me if I bought this light, I might go for removing the stock MCU, custom wiring in a ATtiny85, but that's simply to save money over a driver replacement, and also not to lose USB charging.

Sofirn sells the Q8 driver separately, so driver replacement is an option to get NarsilM or Anduril, but you will lose the USB charging. Since I don't have this light, I can't say for certain it's an exact match with mounting a Q8 driver, so not sure it will work out easy, hard, or not possible.

My "guess" would be it would fit/work because they cloned the light well.

The knurling on this reminds me of a TN Catapult light. Looks like it was pretty well made. It probably would much better received if they gave credit where it was due that’s all.

I definitely have issues with this light and this reviewer. I know this guy as a forum lead on facebook and apparently he gets these free lights, and only uses BLF to post a review, that's about it, all he does on BLF. He does his initial first day replies and disappears, goin back to fb land.

On Amazon, the manufacturer answered my question and admitted they copied the Q8, have not acknowledged this anywhere though in the ad if the light though. The good thing as Chuck pointed out, they screwed up copying the UI, so guess that's a good thing for the Q8, bad thing for the buyers of this light.

I do like the improvements though they made:

  • styling of the batt tube
  • including the loop fitting for a lanyard
  • USB-C charging

Though I don't like they reduced the finning from 7 to 4 - the redesign they did seemed to result in less finning for cooling, though it looks pretty good.

I would still buy one if it came with LED's I prefer like V2 5D's instead of the 6500K's - bad decision there for us. For Amazon US, the price is quite good - $53 compared to the Sofirn Q8 at $60, and considering you get more.

Not sure this is the Q8 upgrade path I'd choose though - really prefer the more compact, lighter SP36, but with XPL HI in NW, a tripod mount, and SS bezel, it would be wayyy better all around.

Still debating on buying one, just not enough there to upgrade from the Q8, specially when modded for more power and better LED's.