Man I asked the other night about converting to Quad
It’s very close to being able to fit. If I find a way to very slightly reduce the outer diameter of the optic (without damaging it), eliminating the glass lens and adding a spacer under the MCPCB could be enough.
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Maybe if I sacrifice one quad optic and press it into some epoxy puddy that’s inside a cardboard tube, remove the optic, and let it cure maybe I can chuck it in a lathe and take ~0.5mm off the radius. I’ll try that I guess..
Man I asked the other night about converting to Quad
It’s very close to being able to fit. If I find a way to very slightly reduce the outer diameter of the optic (without damaging it), eliminating the glass lens and adding a spacer under the MCPCB could be enough.
..
Maybe if I sacrifice one quad optic and press it into some epoxy puddy that’s inside a cardboard tube, remove the optic, and let it cure maybe I can chuck it in a lathe and take ~0.5mm off the radius. I’ll try that I guess..
Do you have a Live Center for your Lathe? I cut a 20mm pocket in a piece of round stock to fit the quad board snugly, popped the optic on and run the Live Center up to the optic with a piece of thick rubber between the optic and live center, locked the tail stock and ran the center up to hold everything together,with just enough force to hold while turning the chuck, then locked the tail stock quill. No crazy RPM and be cool with the tool pressure, that plastic cuts very easy.
I don’t have a lathe of my own but I have access to them at work. We do have live centers. I’ll try this tomorrow maybe. I was initially concerned about the torque/shear applied to the legs would break them.
It’s very close to being able to fit. If I find a way to very slightly reduce the outer diameter of the optic (without damaging it), eliminating the glass lens and adding a spacer under the MCPCB could be enough.
(…) let it cure maybe I can chuck it in a lathe and take ~0.5mm off the radius (..)
If the diameter only has to be reduced by .5mm I am a bit relieved, thought it would be a tighter fit and 2mm had to go.
But why would the lens have to go and/or the addition of a spacer? According to Carclo specs the triple and quad have the exact same height. Or is there a difference in quad/triple MCPCBs? I am at work and can’t measure at the moment; my memory tells me they are both 1.5mm (I could be wrong)?
For those without access to a lathe. I draw a circle with a fine felt tip pen and a drawing template. Remove the material outside the circle with a bench grinder (big wheel, fine grain). Put a light on the brim of your baseball cap for better vision. Firm grip but low pressure does the trick with plastics.
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You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
Sit down at your desk with a handfile and some music and start grinding. Shouldn’t take more than an hour to grind the star and optic to a suitable size.
It’s not very efficient or fast, but it is cheap and easy. I’ve ground down many stars over the years by hand this way and never had any trouble keeping them centered.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dalex-2-Way-Mount-Adjustable-Size-4-25-4-75-Wid.... Vertical or HORIZONTAL nylon belt pouch. This should be a perfect size for this light. It looks like the label is simply sewed on and should come off easily. Not many left. Raine Inc makes a “deluxe knife sheath” in a few different sizes and one of them might work also but there are not many other choices for horizontal carry. Light and pouch enroute.
I notice Vinh has his FW3Avn thread up on CPF. Looks like he’s modified them with Oslon white flat and Nichia 219B. And he also made one into a quad using a modified Carclo quad optic.
I received my FW3A shipment and stuck 219Bs in one of them right away. Next up is sliced dog farts (5000K LH351D). The stock XP-L HI 3D is pretty ugly (Duv 0.0035 or worse on practical levels), but it’s much nicer with sw45k
Alot is cut off/out at the bezel, the beam is kinda Funky, outside on Turbo not too bad for the few seconds you can use it…. and I mean seconds…. I prefer the triple….
The stock XP-L HI 3D is pretty ugly (Duv 0.0035 or worse on practical levels)
Oh my gosh !
CRI70, not a good Duv, desaturates most colors (over-saturates green-yellowish), lot of hue shifts and colors fidelity sucks.
I only ordered a Convoy desert S2+ with XP-L HI 3A and was done with XP-L HI. How could people always asking for this expensive and ugly thing for the sake of a tint and a bit longer but ephemeral turbo ?
I received my FW3A shipment and stuck 219Bs in one of them right away. Next up is sliced dog farts (5000K LH351D). The stock XP-L HI 3D is pretty ugly (Duv 0.0035 or worse on practical levels), but it’s much nicer with sw45k
I’ll be curious to read the report on the sliced DA0GF4RTs. I’m guessing not quite as nice looking as the 219B, about the same cd/lumen, but higher max output.
I think I’d rather just get a Titanium FW3A. That way if I drop it I don’t have to worry about nickel plating coming off.
Man I asked the other night about converting to Quad
It’s very close to being able to fit. If I find a way to very slightly reduce the outer diameter of the optic (without damaging it), eliminating the glass lens and adding a spacer under the MCPCB could be enough.
..
Maybe if I sacrifice one quad optic and press it into some epoxy puddy that’s inside a cardboard tube, remove the optic, and let it cure maybe I can chuck it in a lathe and take ~0.5mm off the radius. I’ll try that I guess..
Do you have a Live Center for your Lathe? I cut a 20mm pocket in a piece of round stock to fit the quad board snugly, popped the optic on and run the Live Center up to the optic with a piece of thick rubber between the optic and live center, locked the tail stock and ran the center up to hold everything together,with just enough force to hold while turning the chuck, then locked the tail stock quill. No crazy RPM and be cool with the tool pressure, that plastic cuts very easy.
KB1428 “Live Life WOT”
Great tip KawiBoy. Thanks!
I don’t have a lathe of my own but I have access to them at work. We do have live centers. I’ll try this tomorrow maybe. I was initially concerned about the torque/shear applied to the legs would break them.
Cheers
If the diameter only has to be reduced by .5mm I am a bit relieved, thought it would be a tighter fit and 2mm had to go.
But why would the lens have to go and/or the addition of a spacer? According to Carclo specs the triple and quad have the exact same height. Or is there a difference in quad/triple MCPCBs? I am at work and can’t measure at the moment; my memory tells me they are both 1.5mm (I could be wrong)?
Thanks.
Convoy S2+ 219b triple, Astrolux FT02, Maglite 3D, Solarforce L2t
For those without access to a lathe. I draw a circle with a fine felt tip pen and a drawing template. Remove the material outside the circle with a bench grinder (big wheel, fine grain). Put a light on the brim of your baseball cap for better vision. Firm grip but low pressure does the trick with plastics.
You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
Or you can do it the way I’d do it:
Sit down at your desk with a handfile and some music and start grinding. Shouldn’t take more than an hour to grind the star and optic to a suitable size.
It’s not very efficient or fast, but it is cheap and easy. I’ve ground down many stars over the years by hand this way and never had any trouble keeping them centered.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dalex-2-Way-Mount-Adjustable-Size-4-25-4-75-Wid.... Vertical or HORIZONTAL nylon belt pouch. This should be a perfect size for this light. It looks like the label is simply sewed on and should come off easily. Not many left. Raine Inc makes a “deluxe knife sheath” in a few different sizes and one of them might work also but there are not many other choices for horizontal carry. Light and pouch enroute.
Can you please link that thread? Thanks.
Found it.
You know what you have to do now, right?
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Get her a matching diffuser cap, put the light in candle mode, and prepare her a nice hot bath.
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https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?458653-Lumintop-TLF-BLF-FW3Avn-Most-Compact-Triple-Quad
Hope it works
Here’s the link to Vinh’s FW3A thread on CPF.
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?458653-Lumintop-FW3A...
/\ Thanks for the link gentlemen….
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FW3A Quad in a word…Yuck!
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KB1428 “Live Life WOT”
Why yuck?
I received my FW3A shipment and stuck 219Bs in one of them right away. Next up is sliced dog farts (5000K LH351D). The stock XP-L HI 3D is pretty ugly (Duv 0.0035 or worse on practical levels), but it’s much nicer with sw45k
Full measurements on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/bmpt0m/nld_blflumintop_fw3a...
Alot is cut off/out at the bezel, the beam is kinda Funky, outside on Turbo not too bad for the few seconds you can use it…. and I mean seconds…. I prefer the triple….
KB1428 “Live Life WOT”
Fair enough. Still impressive skills though.
Thanks!
. Here is the Funky Square-ish Beam it produces…
KB1428 “Live Life WOT”
Yeah. Are you going to change it back, or try other emitters?
Oh my gosh !
CRI70, not a good Duv, desaturates most colors (over-saturates green-yellowish), lot of hue shifts and colors fidelity sucks.
I only ordered a Convoy desert S2+ with XP-L HI 3A and was done with XP-L HI. How could people always asking for this expensive and ugly thing for the sake of a tint and a bit longer but ephemeral turbo ?
Quick and nice work still KB! Which 106xx optic did you use?
I’ll be curious to read the report on the sliced DA0GF4RTs. I’m guessing not quite as nice looking as the 219B, about the same cd/lumen, but higher max output.
Thank you so much for the quad beam, looks funky indeed.
Convoy S2+ 219b triple, Astrolux FT02, Maglite 3D, Solarforce L2t
Thermal paste is not applied evenly.

if it is possible…
Please reapply the thermal paste.
Driver
Reflash newest firmware.
anduril.2019-04-24.fw3a-219.hex(For Nichia 219B_V1)
anduril.2019-04-24.fw3a.hex
CREE XP-L Hi 3D (5000K)

Nichia 219B_V1 4000K R9080
Samsung LH351D 4000K 90CRI
XPL Hi、219B、LH351D
Ramp Ceiling (moment),steel_lumen
XPL Hi:1020
219B:656
LH351D:887
Sorry for my poor english.
Amazing pictures and insight, thanks for uploading!
Great lights and mods, the only aspect that would irritate me personally is the rabbit
Convoy S2+ 219b triple, Astrolux FT02, Maglite 3D, Solarforce L2t
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