Best budget smartphone?

I bought a 128GB Google Pixel 1 in “very good” condition on eBay in December 2018 for $170. It replaced a hand-me-down (free) iPhone 3GS from 2009 that still works fine, but which maxxed out at iOS 6 and thus won’t run modern apps.

That was a bit more than I originally intended to spend, but I wanted plenty of storage and no serious damage as I’ll be carrying this phone for years to come. In reality, I’m using only about 30GB of storage even with dozens of apps, but too much space is a good thing. The phone looks nearly new with only a small scratch on one corner. Screen is flawless, etc.

The original Pixel is still getting monthly Android updates as soon as they are released and I upgraded to Android Pi (9) after activating the phone. Performance is still great, though the Pixel 1 camera is not quite as nice as the one on Pixel 2/3. It’s still unbelievably good when compared with my old phone :wink: .

It’s not perfect, by any means, but 6 months ago it was a good value for a phone that I didn’t have to root in order to get the latest operating system. If you don’t mind rooting a cheaper Android, then by all means go for it, but you will probably have problems and some of those problems may be unsolvable.

BTW: Don’t get the original Pixel XL; it had screen problems.

The best “used” values are changing constantly as new phones come out and supplies of “old” phones come in and out of stock at refurbishers. The original Pixel is probably not such a great value today, but I’m mainly pointing out that used phones can be an excellent option if you do some homework and find a trustworthy seller. My next phone will likely be used as well.

The Pixel 3a appears to be a good value for a “new” phone and will probably be far more popular than the Pixel 3.

The OnePlus phones have traditionally been good values. They use near-stock Android and get rapid security updates, but:

# OnePlus 6 went upmarket slightly, but OnePlus 7 jumped upmarket substantially. The company has admitted that these will no longer be mid-tier phones :frowning: .

# Older OnePlus phones have maintained insane resell values, making used 4/5/6 models rather poor values.

Though all phones are untrustworthy to some degree, any phone that doesn’t get iOS or Android updates should be considered to be someone else’s; you should not do sensitive or financial activities on such a device. Cheap phones do not receive updates as a rule and even those that do may be updated more than a year after Google releases the patch; too late to help anyone.

I’ll also mention that a security research firm recently tested the 30 most popular “financial” apps from banks, credit card companies, etc and found that all of them, both iOS and Android versions, were insecure and poorly written. Some were worse than others, but none sufficiently followed industry standard security practices. They easily hacked into all of them.

Lastly and as others have noted, if your phone is slow, try removing the crap. My Pixel 1 is fast and smooth in Android 9, unless I add more than a couple of widgets to the screen. Widgets will kill performance like nothing else. If you don’t need an app, remove it. If you don’t use a screen icon or widget, remove it.

Can i Skype?

Is the camera good enough to send high res photos of a product/problem?

Can i change the battery?

Can i store 200-300 gigs of drawings/data/photos?

Will i get good reception in poor areas?

Will i get all the 4G bands everywhere on the planet? At least most of the planet?

If i need Google earth, is the screen capable of high res?

Do i have a lot of screen real estate? Nothing less the 6”.

If not, to me it’s not budget, it’s junk.

My father has a large button phone that he uses to tell time and get an occasional call. He’s 101. His phone is 50 bucks.

Budget phones are defined by what ones needs are.

Super duper latest and greatest……don’t care, don’t need it.

What i always want but never get is a tough phone. I would be thrilled if they made a high end’ish phone with polycarbonate screen that i can overlay with a disposable, 5 buck glass screen protector.

used iphone 6 or 6s on amazon, $150 or so…

i hated the idea until i tried to wade through 10000000000 android models, features, bugs, versions, years, reviews, android versions, etc

wle

Why on earth would you need that much storage, and what phone possibly overs 300 GB?

Well, that’s easy to store on a micro SD card.

That’s what he was implying: he needs a micro SD card slot in his phone.

megs maybe, not 300 gigs, that needs a hard drive
sounds like he wants a laptop/tablet with 4G for $100

While there are really large SD cards, the Android phones limit the maximum card size.
Most modern phones should accept 256 GB cards.

edit:
Specific phones support larger storage solutions, S9 has up to 400GB.

All phones with SDXC card slots can support SD cards of up to 2TB.

That means any decent phones after 2012 supports microSD cards of up to 2TB.

Welcome to 2019 - no need for hard drive, you can get 256GB brand name card for around 30$. Storage is really cheap nowdays, well except for iphone users.

Just purchased a Redmi 6A for around US$84 and pretty sufficient for my daily activities.
Haven’t tried to play any game though…

Yep. Problem is storage can fail. Be sure to do regular backups :innocent:

Not sure if it is a good budget smart phone but I got for my wife a free Samsung Galaxy A5 2017 brand new.. Seems to be pretty decent after I removed all the bloatware, turned off mobile data, turned off all notifications except for incoming calls etc. The only thing I don't like is that the phone is the Canadian version and they disabled the FM tuner. Would have been nice to have it working without using any data. Searched around and not convinced installing a new global rom would fix it as I have read never ending issues with this phone trying to do that.

After years of having a smart phone, I thought I would call up Consumer Cellular and set up my voice mail.

The man on the phone tried to call my mom's phone, and he couldn't, so he told me to do a factory reset on both phones.

I did, and after doing so, I lost just about all the data on my phone, and my mom lost just about all of her pics on her phone and all of her texts.

I don't know who I was talking to at Consumer Cellular, but he gave very bad advice.

Now I know that you have to backup your data first, and you'll still lose all of your texts.

I didn't have a lot on my phone, but having to start over again is annoying to say the least.

My voice mail is set up, and Consumer Cellular can now call my mom's phone, but it was still horrible advice.

If someone tells you to do a factory reset on your phone, do some research first, and take the necessary precautions to limit data loss.

I.m.o. a decent 2nd hand Samsung S5 is perhaps the best deal.
Make sure to do a factory reset BEFORE you start using it.
Lord knows what mess is on there when you buy a used one.
A micro SD card is a good idea too. For me 32 GB is more than enough.

The only draw back is the age and wear of the battery, but you can get a new one if necessary.

among much else, turns up

[quote]
Secret Back Door in Some U.S. Phones Sent Data to China …

Nov 16, 2016 The Chinese company that wrote the software, Shanghai Adups Technology Company, says its code runs on more than 700 million phones, cars and other smart devices….

How to Stay Safe from Adups Spyware on Budget Android Phones …

Aug 1, 2017Chinese Android software transmitted personal data including text messages, call details, and contacts from tens of thousands of phones.,

Yes, i’ve heard similar things… Laptops, even military equipment…

Reminds me of what happened to me a couple of days ago.

I was petting the (my mom’s) dog, saying “hey, doggie”.
And her phone was close by, and the phone said: “He’s a good boy.” and played a dog barking….

My mom thought it was hilarious,
i was a little freaked out by it…
I guess it must have been some stupid app that caused this, but who knows?

Since then i turn off the Wifi on my phone (and of course the data transmission via the cellphone network) when i don’t need it.
But guess what happens when i turn it on?
It’s busy transmitting a bunch of data back an forth, making it next to impossible to do anything else until it’s finished.

You know the slogan:
“Make 1984 fiction again!”

Recently purchased a 1 year old 64 gb Samsung Galaxy S8 on Craigslist for $60 with a cracked screen. Had the screen replaced at $75 and added a 128 gb micro SD card.

Looks like Samsung will not issue any updates to the S8 but I think $125 for a S8 seems to be a good deal.

I purchased a used Samsung S10E 128GB for $130. It has almost nothing visually wrong with it, and I decided to get one for mom. I forgot how much bloat Samsung devices have after using Moto for a number of years. But it’s big improvement in performance over my last phone. Hoping to have it a good number of years.

Whatever the current iPhone that has the lowest cost, such as an iPhone 7, iPhone SE 2, or iPhone XR depending on vendor. For Android why not Nokia or Alcatel?

My kids got new Samsung tablets at xmas so I could finally have my own tablet computer (phone and PC is usually enough for me but some android games are nicer on the big screen).
So I used this guide and this list to clean the rubbish. Took me one hour around midnight to reinstall the keyboard thoudg, so DON’T remove or disable anything with keyboard or honeyboard in its name.
If I was to de-bloat an S10E (my wife owns one, maybe I’d inherit it soon if my Sony XZ1c would die someday) I’d check this post.
Cheers.