Test/review of Vapcell INR16340 800mAh (White)

It looks like it did okay with 5A draw, but it faltered at 7A draw. It’s rated for 7A continuous, so maybe you’re right. Maybe he means “struggled”, because that’s what it looks like it did.

Very helpful.
Thank you for the reply, and all your time testing and sharing info

I like the Vapcell 16340 INR because the button top works in all my lights. Even the ones with physical reverse polarity rings around a brass contact button in the head of the light, such as Eagletac and Jetbeam.

The Vapcell 16340 INR even works in my Atom AL, that does not like my Olight and Fenix 16340, that are longer and have flatter button tops.

Im hoping at some point, for a protected version of the Vapcell 16340, since none of those lights have built in Low Voltage Protection.

I use one of these Vapcell 16340 cells in a little Supfire S1 host with BLF-A6 driver and Luxeon V led, all resistances minimised, and get around 1150 lumen at 30 seconds. I think that is close the max that you can get with this little cell and a single led. A XP-L Hi has a considerably higher voltage than the V, and being domeless that makes the XP-L Hi less efficient as well, so I think in direct drive you will end up well under 1000 lumen.

Thanks for the testing HKJ, much appreciated. :+1:

Thank you very much for HKJ’s test.

Battery consistency and power deficiency, hope to be improved in the future

We are doing this.

16340 battery with PCB, we also hope to come out as soon as possible.

At present we can do better 16340, but some battery factories have huge MOQ :weary:

The 16340 market is much smaller than the 18350 market.

Hope the future will be good :slight_smile:

And Thank users for your support of vapcell :slight_smile:

I concur with DavidEF, the 5A discharge curve still looks sort of healthy. However, there is a large difference in internal resistance between the tested specimens. Iffy stuff which speaks bad with regards to product consistency. I also wonder about the button top spot welding quality.

Thanks,
We will find ways to improve product consistency

Thanks HKJ!

Looks like good batteries, bought a few for my olight batons, they should be great :slight_smile:

I got this in an eBay email, assume US only for $5 off:

Code: YUSRAOMY7HW9FPBM. Ends Jun 29, 2019. T&Cs apply.*

Wit this link for qty 2 of these Vapcell 16340's: https://www.ebay.com/i/233242085587?ul_noapp=true

If the code works, it's a pair for $5 shipped - great deal. Let me know if it works. I've bought from the eBay seller before - good as long as you know what you are buying.

I copied the code and pasted it,it did not work for me.

Today should be the last day, but guess it's linked to an eBay account somehow? dunno...

I just tested the Acebeam TK16 Osram version with these three cells. The new Vapcell 800mah is clearly the king of 16340.

Vapcell 800mah
Output: 1,184 lumens
Tested capacity: 781, 782, 791, 757 mah

Acebeam 550mah
Outpu: 1,190 lumens
Tested capacity: 617 mah

Efest 700mah Red wrapper
Output: 1,112 lumens
Tested capacity: 685 mah

Acebeam for the win, deception free capacity claims. Top lumens, too.

Just to add a quick test of a cell that was bought “in the wild” (nkon.nl) a few weeks ago. I think it is genuine. It performs good in my Acebeam TK16, but are not as brilliant as the samples “provided by Vapcell for review”. I added the included battery of the light for a comparision. They were charged in a Graupner Ultramat 14 plus to 4.2 V, 200 mA and discharged with a Keithley Source Meter 2601 at 3 A to 3 V.

How did you obtain the “provided by Vapcell for review” and can you show comparisons? I also bought the Vapcell 800mah and it seems to match up with HKJ’s review. Also did a bunch of output test and I can comfortably say they are the best high capacity 16340 in existence at the moment.

I was referring to the original test, where the cells were provided, and those work better than the ones you might get when buying them. That goes in line with other overservations in this thread, that mention some inconsistencies. And while I would say, they are even some of the best high drain 16340 (this format seems to be quite rare anyway, so in my case they were the only option even), I guess it is fair to criticise the “optimistic” rating and the inconsistencies.

Ok, but I’m not sure how you compared your cells with HKJ’s results. I would like to see the “differences” you are seeing because for me, at least capacity wise, it is not any worst than HKJ’s test. I’m very happy with the cell.

Reality molds to your wishes, your beliefs so, are you believing right?

I am also sure that at least some or many people actually have no black sheeps, i.e. good cells overall.

Yes, fair it is to criticise the inconsistencies and the (to some point) optimistic rating. The former mostly disqualifies the product for in series operation or battery pack assembly, the latter is the shame of an industry who has been living on deceptive, overrated best case numbers for too long. A battery is a lot more than a freakin' number, most people needs to understand this.

Just compared by eye, the voltage in HKJ’s test is a little bit higher (so, the flashlight would light up a little brighter). I don’t have the means to test it at any higher current. I don’t think I would get a comfortable 7 A discharge out of mine. But as I stated, it works good in the light and I thought the comparision with the Acebeam shows that is a very good performer, and certainly a good cell overall. Which means that I’m also happy with mine.

I absolutely agree. And it is still bound to the laws of physics and chemistry :smiley: