FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

The time has come to resign a FW3A….
I was thinking of buying one SST-20 and one LH351D…
One FW3C that I already had in the cart…

I also think that for the next BLF project you should look for another manufacturer. A change of specifications on the fly and without notice… :-/

None of the SST-20 group buy lights have shipped yet.

It would be nice if Neal could provide a date when these changes started and if it actually applies to orders made before the changes were known. I dont think it should be “okay” for them to make changes to what we ordered.

Agreed. All orders placed before Lumintop changed the decscription on the order page to remove glass lens really ought to ship with the glass lens plus Carclo optic. Hopefully this change will only apply to orders after Lumintop announced the change.

Hopefully…. time will tell I guess.

I imagine Neal is as surprised & disgusted by this change Lumintop decided upon as most of us are.

I feel bad for Neal that Lumintop placed him in the lurch like this. It sux. :frowning:

I wonder if Neal can also offer a standard AR tempered glass in addition to the sapphire AR one? They exist, as they’re on the original… unless they were custom cut.

Closest I could find on that site is 22.61mm x 1.90mm. There’s also a 22.61mm x 0.95mm, which I guess could be useful for adding a GITD o-ring. There’s also a Borofloat Lens option too… which is similar to Pyrex with better clarity, but has a 5% transmittance loss over UCL.

I wasn't so sure this thread would someday hit 15,000 posts...

But with self-inflicted controversies, anything is possible!

You're "only" 11971. I doubt it will reach that number. Did you mean 10k?

No, with controversies like this, I believe 15k posts will be inevitable.

Agreed…. only 3026 to go also.

“Lens Gate” will be good for many, many extra posts. :smiley: . :+1:

As will ’Color Gate’, ’Material Gate’, and any other pending ’Gate’ that may arise. :wink:

And if we continue to clutter it ;)

But looks like the coupon is gone, maybe lumintop just wanted to make the agreed amount of the flashlights for the price? I hope that I can get a rosy 219c instead of the SST20. Seems like they at least choose good bins.

I look forward to Gate Gate when they switch to a knockoff FET

Yeah, all this is potentially bad enough…… but that will be the ‘icing on the cake’… :person_facepalming:

Will that be before or after ditching 18650 support in favor of this tech…
https://www.hydralight.com/

…leading to Watergate. :smiling_imp:

I don’t think we count as much as we’d like.
This item is pimped everywhere.

:smiley: … Good one, I’ve never seen that before… :wink:

I think your probably right…… :slight_smile: . :+1:

lumintop just made my decision between a FW3A and D4 much easier. FW3A is being downgraded, D4 is being upgraded.

both worthy of possessing…

Nah.

Only one is worthy.

One is making upgrades.
The other is downgrades.

IMO, they should’ve just kept the glass, and changed the optic, while telling us about the change.

There’s a much bigger difference between a worse design vs a change of part that doesn’t change much.