FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

And if we continue to clutter it ;)

But looks like the coupon is gone, maybe lumintop just wanted to make the agreed amount of the flashlights for the price? I hope that I can get a rosy 219c instead of the SST20. Seems like they at least choose good bins.

I look forward to Gate Gate when they switch to a knockoff FET

Yeah, all this is potentially bad enoughā€¦ā€¦ but that will be the ā€˜icing on the cakeā€™ā€¦ :person_facepalming:

Will that be before or after ditching 18650 support in favor of this techā€¦
https://www.hydralight.com/

ā€¦leading to Watergate. :smiling_imp:

I donā€™t think we count as much as weā€™d like.
This item is pimped everywhere.

:smiley: ā€¦ Good one, Iā€™ve never seen that beforeā€¦ :wink:

I think your probably rightā€¦ā€¦ :slight_smile: . :+1:

lumintop just made my decision between a FW3A and D4 much easier. FW3A is being downgraded, D4 is being upgraded.

both worthy of possessingā€¦

Nah.

Only one is worthy.

One is making upgrades.
The other is downgrades.

IMO, they shouldā€™ve just kept the glass, and changed the optic, while telling us about the change.

Thereā€™s a much bigger difference between a worse design vs a change of part that doesnā€™t change much.

I believe Lumintop had to do a lot of design engineering and make their own blueprints. I doubt they copied Fritzā€™s measurements and tolerances precisely. They probably used his light as inspiration, but basically designed it all new (body/machining wise).

What licensing? Between Fritz and Lumintop? I donā€™t believe there was any mention of such a thing. If there was, I missed it.

I donā€™t think you are realizing just how much effort and money Lumintop also put into this project. Itā€™s not fair to say they were ā€œgiftedā€ the design and they only had to ā€œmakeā€ it. Itā€™s like I design a car and hand it to Ford and say ā€œMake thisā€. Itā€™s not that simple, itā€™s very complicated. Ford has to figure out all the nitty gritty details like fit, finish, tolerances, prototyping, testing, etcā€¦

I think the only thing Lumintop did not have to work on was Anduril, because ToyKeeper worked on it for them.

So it was truly a group effort. Not many manufacturers will even work with forums since we are such a pain in their butt with so many demands, etcā€¦ :smiley:

Still, I canā€™t defend this last minute optic design change. They should say the problem they are having, for example maybe their supply of Carclo lenses is getting low and Carclo can not keep up demand. So an example to remedy this is to have a different company make a custom lens. They should ask us if this is acceptable before just doing it. Maybe it is only about lowering production costs, I donā€™t really know. The way they did it with no warning (kinda) and no explanation of why is surely going to upset many people and lose sales.

:+1:

Iā€™m not saying Lumintop didnā€™t invest money and effort. Iā€™m just saying a lot was done at no cost to them. Designing something like this in house would have been difficult for them, or maybe they never would have thought of it at all.

D4 v2 is official.

1. Larger MCPCB with dedicated screws holes: All 4 optic legs are intact in the D4 v2.
2. 7 auxiliary LED colors options which is selectable through config UI, as well as the voltage indication function.
3. Knurling on the tube, magnet option in the tailcap, lanyard hole added.
4. Anduril UI
5. Couple of other small improvements

Availability: soon

Perfect timing.

Very clever! :partying_face:

Unfortunately, ā€˜Gate Gateā€™ is already taken, in reference to the (unnecessary) scrutiny of Carclo optics. :stuck_out_tongue:

I was waiting for someone to defend Lumpytarp .

Seems like the bunny just keeps going and going and going .So happy that I got my order in for the sst-20 / 30$ light that they promised .....ooops I mean 32$ I'm assuming the 2$ is for Lumbertop to buy optics that will murder the throw gains of the sst emitters.

brilliant ...just brilliant

Just correcting misinformation (or incorrect assumptions) when I see it. :wink:

Can't believe you did it . I knew it was coming :P

They deserve credit for capitalizing the letter L too

Huh.

Just noticed the price is higher than 30$US for the SST-20 version.

So, maybe theyā€™ll use the Carclo+lens setup in the pre-ordered SST-20 version since the price difference is for the lens price and Carclo TIR?

Anyway, if thatā€™s not the case, Iā€™m not buying the FW3A anymore.

They shouldā€™ve just taken the 20% import taxes on the LH351Ds, made it the same price as the XP-L HI version, and be done with it.