Imalent MS18 with 100,000Lumen and R90TS with 36,000Lumen

What album are you refering to?

The link above looks really good on my phone.

I did a search and found your album. If you look at the webpage on a mobile device it looks crappy. I click the link to open it in the app and it looks great. It shows to be 5464x3070 and 1.2 MB.

As long as everyone else can see them in high quality, I’m happy. I’ve derailed this thread long enough. Thank you!

I purchased the stock version Imalent R90TS from Vinh54, and it shipped today, I anticipate having it in three business bays, maybe by Wednesday, July 17.

This will be my first Imalent light!

My main area of interest is beam profile/beam performance.

I n this light. I envision a beam profile similar to X65, but with a little more throw and some more beam width, and some more up front spill, with more lumens on the target at given range, but in the form of a larger hotspot; this is what I envision.

The light shipped today, I anticipate having it in three or four business bays, maybe by Wednesday, July 17.

I will post back with subjective impressions.

I just got the big package five hours ago, noon Arizona time, so nighttime beam profile impressions will have to wait another four hours, but I want to post now.

My two comparison/reference lights are X65Vn for beam profile comparison, and X45Vn 70.2 OP for lumens comparison.

Size: Length is similar to X65, battery pack length is almost the same length as X65 battery pack, but a little thicker: 2.2 in./59mm diameter battery pack, versus 1.9 in./48mm diameter battery pack for the X65, due to 21700 40T batteries, versus 18650 batteries for the X65.

Weight: Battery pack feels only a little heavier than X65 pack, head feels significantly heavier than X65 head.

Likes, initial daytime out of box:

8 power modes: 7 normal modes plus Turbo, so no shortage of power modes to choose from.

White wall hunting: beam has nice defined hot spot, transitions are small/gradual, all white, no yellow or purple or blue.

Lots of bright copper parts can be seen when looking in through the fan intake/exhaust ports. Lots of bright copper heat dissipating fins can be seen inside.

Simple UI is a Like for me. When I am in the mood for ultra giga tera advanced UI, I can configure for such in my Noctigon Meteor M43vn XP-L dd.

Bathroom (small, white) ceiling bounce check: Versus X45Vn at 25,000 lumens: 35,000 lumens is 40% more than 25,000 lumens, and subjective brightness increase appears to be about 15% brighter than the X45Vn. That rates as a Like for me; no noticeably brighter bathroom would have been a not like.

White kitchen refrigerator hunting: subjective brightness increase appears to be about 20% brighter than the X45Vn. The bounce from the white metal refrigerator does overload the eyes.

Fan noise level is ok. Subjective build quality appears to be nice.

My initial impressions continued: Night time:

First glance at the reflector of the R90TS looks like a flooder, because of so many emitters. But, the beam really is a throw beam, not flood beam. The kicker is that it is a very high lumen throw beam, and a wider than X65 throw beam.

Think X65 beam profile, but the main beam is not as narrow. Shine the X65 down the street a few blocks, and then the R90TS; the R90TS will clearly show similar beam profile, but some more main beam width.

Of course, the X65 beam profile/performance is very impressive, but finally, after two and a half years, Imalent has this light with beam profile/performance that is more impressiver!

So, unless there is something else out there that I am not aware of, I would rate this as King of the high output throwers.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

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remember:

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Hi does anyone know if this is the charger to the ms18? I have several different generic chargers that I dont know which one is which.

https://imgur.com/a/1ckx6pc
Output: 19v 2.0A

Yes this is your MS18 charger.

Thanks :slight_smile:

Has anyone estimated or measured the wattage for each output level? For example 1000W for Turbo, etc.

I estimated it used about 1200 watts for max output here.

This is a very hard light to measure current from. You can’t do a typical tail cap current measurement. You can run wires between the battery pack and head, but its difficult and the wires resistance effects the results. You can power the head with a bench power supply, but that will not give accuracy either.

Ya, not easy to find a 1000+W power supply either.
I am thinking it should be FET type of driver in the MS18. Wonder anyone change the FET to lower resistance type. But the battery would already be the limiting factor.

I’m not clear on the driver design because someone mentioned it can do steady output levels on the lower brightness levels. It does use at least 7 (possibly 9) of the Goford G16N03A mosfets (30v 16A). Maybe it is a standard PWM FET type driver?

The steps in this test make me think it’s not the regular FET driver design. Usually a FET has smooth steady drop due to battery voltage dropping.

Then in this longer running test you do see a steady output drop as if the batteries are draining. It still has these small steps, though. I don’t know enough about driver design to explain these small steady steps.

I don’t see any inductors in the driver so I don’t think it’s a Boost or Buck design.

I dont know if it´s 1200 Watts but it´s interesting what effect the outputpower has on random stuff.
I found this video on Youtube

Is there currently a more powerful flashlight on the market?

Late to the party, by quite a margin, but I’m in all the same!

My lightbox is calibrated to have no multiplier and have the meter show actual lumens, verified with a set of Maukka’s lights. I also have a 6” adapter that has a 1.292X multiplier. The 40T cells this light is said by Imalent to utilize power my new light to a start value of 75,700 lumens sitting on the rim of the tube. With the adapter, however, it figures out to 58,398. The reduction of the adapter apparently influences the reading.

This light IS amazingly impressive though, to be certain. Pricey, yes. Noisy, yes. Hot, oh for sure! But it’s OMG retraction ability is second to none!

Ok, I got to thinking about how the light fits the light box and made a small change. My light box is a 4” Industrial P trap, there is a 90degree elbow that has a glass shelf the lights typically sit on, but the MS18 is large enough that it is the same size as the sch 80 fitting. This means the light doesn’t sit on the glass but rather 1 3/4” above it. So I cut 3/4” off the top allowing my usual foam to fit flush. This brings the MS18 closer to glass level. And now I get a start reading of 84,300 lumens.

Now I am considering cutting the rest off such that it will be flush with the glass, then this big light will be tested from the same glass level surface as all other lights, including the Maukka calibration lights.

Wonder if that will indeed show the 100,000 lumens advertised?

Edit: Cutting my lumen tube so the glass is flush I got 92,800 lumens. I put a 16 ga. spring bypass in the head and now it shows a cold start, fresh charged, at 95,400 lumens. Drops down into the low 70’s within 23 seconds with a steady drop as it heats up and the cells sag.

Took the MS18 out to the lake, covered 100 yds to the post line beside a road and out to a body of land to over 480 yards. That first hundred yards is intense! What surprised me is the beam visible in the air, a decent parallel column of light that pushes out pleasantly far!

Almost 80 degrees, 21 mph winds gusting to 33, all kinds of stuff blowing across… not a great night for beamshots but interesting all the same.

Excellent beamshot! Looks like daylight!