FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

Is your 7A significantly brighter than your SST-20?

To my eyes, about 20% brighter. But the the SST-20’s has a narrower beam and a bit more throw as expected.

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I’m not sure how I feel about this, but don’t forget about the outdoor glamour shot!

@ KevinZA, that sounds reasonable. Are you using the same optic?

Yeah, I even swapped optics to confirm that the optics are the same. Lumen junkies will complain about the SST-20’s.

Yep. Guilty as charged. It is definitely not as bright. I’m going to try different optics to see what works best.

But the 4000k SST20 looks amazing outside in the dark walking around either a veggie garden or flower bed. The colors just pop and I can give up a few lumens for that. The heat on the other hand is insane with the SST20’s.

Yeah, but the 4000K is not what I would call warm… Neutral, yes. I’m waiting for the funky colored FW3A lights to be released then I’ll order that emitter combo.

I do like the tint a lot. Hotter, and less bright though, not so much.

You may be noticing the Purkinje effect, combined with the relatively low output of red from the 80CRI emitter.

I haven’t done any rigorous testing, but I tend to assume high CRI should be particularly helpful for maintaining color discrimination in the red range as intensity is decreased, although even that would not completely counter the Purkinje effect.

Do you have other 3000K lights you’re comparing it to?

And is this when it’s fully dark? I’ve got a 3000K XM-L2 light that seems comparatively very orange if I’m using it around what is often called the “blue hour,” which occurs after sunset but before it is fully dark.

I don’t like such warm color temperatures for that kind of situation. On the other hand, indoors, where my last light exposure was likely a 2700-3000K bulb, or around a campfire after it’s totally dark, 3000K is great.

My SST-20 4000K came today. The emitters are great but the new switch is terrible compared to the first run one. Metal-on-metal squeaky and not nearly as solid feeling :frowning:

hm that sounds bad? i have same on its way, i thought the switch is better compared to the first run ?

Mine does not squeak at all. Solid click sound. The only way I can get a metal on metal sound is by spinning the switch, which you would expect that sound at that point.

Really happy with mine except I wish it didn’t activate so easily on the edge. I am currently doing the switch lockout with the head. It’s really not bad doing it that way since the threads are so smooth it turns like butter with one hand. Plus it keeps your memory since you keep power to the driver. I am considering changing the internal switch like some have, I just don’t know what they used. I am considering trying some foam too since some have said that worked well.

The first run switches were great. You could not make it any better.

Your probably thinking of the 2nd run, not the 1st.

I have 5 SST-20 4000K’s - no squeak and more solid feel than the first run light that I received. Maybe you just got a dud?

This gives me some hope for the SST-20’s that should be arriving today. Thanks.

Same, I picked the 7A 3300k because 5000k seemed way too cool. 7A is OK (too warm but tolerable) – I really want LH351D 4k 90CRI emitters though. MTN is currently out of stock of the bare emitters so I’ll keep an eye out.

The SST-20 temp is good at 4k, and has high CRI but they give off a lot of heat and are quite a bit lower brightness on turbo, approx 1700 lumens vs 3000 lumens for the XP-L 3A per a user earlier the thread, data here. I’m not sure how the LH351D compares.

Bumping up here, after some time AFK. So, it seems SST-20 are a real thing? :)

Can someone can help me find the post stating pricing, variants, codes, whatever info on them?

I got my SST-20 from Neal: FW3A
Make sure to use the 20% off code at the top of the page. Also I would recommend paying the little extra for the better shipping unless you don’t mind waiting possibly weeks. I got a green glow gasket too which Neal put on for me, it’s a great addition.