WTB: Jetbeam RRT01 – Any place to buy it?! + [RRT01 2019 discussion]

I disassembled my last factory older RRT-01 today. While I was there, I measured the bottom shelf where the mcpcb sits.
The shelf measured 15.10mm in diameter. A 16mm mcpcb can be used if filed down to 15mm. If doing the KD reflector swap a mcpcb of 1.5mm thickness would be better to allow the bezel to screw down to almost factory position. A 14mm mcpcb in 1.5mm thickness would work best if you can source one.
This info is for the older original RRT-01 not the new model. :wink:
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You can find the 16mm x1.5mm mcpcb’s here.

I was not expecting the old RRT-01 to have a smaller shelf than the TC-R1, but there you have it… Thanks for the information moderator007.

After I get the supplies from KD to mod the TC-R1 to Nichia 219b, I am going to look for a 2016 RRT-01…

I didn’t bother to measure mine when I modded it last weekend, but 15mm was my “rough guess” for MCPCB size after I filed (and filed and filed) down my 16mm MCPCB. Thanks for taking the time to actually measure, and provide a reference here for others.

I need to get around to ordering that new reflector, and I’ll probably also change the centering ring, but then I need to find a better way of making 4040 centering rings. The last one I reamed out from 3535 and my fingertips were upset with me for days!

You were Right, again!

That was too easy, I just moved the O ring up to where it belongs, and Viola!

All is well, no more exposed O ring.
fwiw, that light has a kaidomain reflector and a non stock mcpcb installation. I dont know how thick, the mod done by a friend.

Installed, after sanding down, some glow gaskets from CRX

I hope night comes soon, so I can play in the dark

Man thats Nice! Holly Molly!

I just changed the optic on my triple sw45 from pink panda. It now has the narrow clear and is making 410 lumens on a 16340… it was 360 with the diffuse optic.

I really like the narrow clear.

I also added a touch of nyogel 767a to the control ring assembly, and then sealed it up with some blue locktite, after swapping the driver to one of the new 2019 RRT-01 drivers, that has strobe.

The ring feel is even nicer than before… can be fine tuned with one finger, but has enough damping that it wont move unintentionally.

There is still the slightest grinding feel of the detente ball moving in the track but the rotation is nice and smooth. The off detente is snappy too. I can really feel it lock in, and it takes an intentional effort to turn the dial on. Then it rotates nice and easy, without being too loose nor too tight.

Im super happy to be learning how to lube the control ring for a good “feel”, to my taste.

Major respect to pinkpanda for this triple sw45 Original RRT-01… what a beam!:slight_smile:

And thanks to CRX for the glow gaskets… I like the AcquaMan!

What a beautiful Light! thanks to all my friends on BLF for helping me get here

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I was thinking about this, from another thread:

Good idea!
fwiw, when pinkpanda built those triple RRT-01, he also modified the optics to fit the RRT-01 head opening, which is smaller than necessary to fit a stock optic.

Im not sure if pinkpanda also reduced the size of the triple mcpcb to fit… seems likely… he did a ton of work without mention of reward, out of kindness towards the BLF community

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I just stopped by mtn to see the size of the triple mcpcb, but I dont know yet what the size of the opening is in the head of the RRT-01

I note mtn also has spacers… wouldnt it be cool if one of them fit the RRT-01?:slight_smile:

maybe someone (pinkpanda or moderator007) will chime in with some measurements on spacer size for RRT-01, compared to what mtn offers

I dont mind doing a bit of sanding… lol

like I did to fit the glow gasket

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and for an encore, I would like to see trit slots through the fins of the Eye10 head. So that finned piece can be moved onto my PandaBuilt Triple sw45, Original RRT-01.
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Trits would be groovy… :wink:

I will need to take some measurements to double check the exact ID of the rrt-01 head but I’m sure the MTN spacers are too wide - 20.3mm. For reference the diameter will need to be the same as the reduced size of the mcpcb (roughly 15mm going by the comments above).

Edit - also I think Geuzzz was intending to remove the glass and use an unmodified optic for the ‘relatively simple mod’

This info is for the older RRT-01.
The inside of the head where the heatsink would fit measures .660”.
The height of the heat sink would need to be .295” if the factory lens is to be installed.
IMPORTANT
The height measurement for the heatsink is from the bottom of the led shelf. In all the RRT-01’s and TCR1’s I have seen there is a small cut out in the bottom of the shelf to fit the mcpcb that is smaller than the head opening where the heatsink would set. The bottom of the heatsink will not touch the bottom of the led shelf because of this extra little cut out where the mcpcb sets (a little lip). I bore all my triples out first and cut the extra lip of the bottom of the led shelf making it all flat before making the heatsink for good fitment.
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If you made the heatsink height smaller to account for the space where the heatsink is setting on the lip instead of the led shelf, it could still work allowing heat to travel to the head out the sides of the heatsink. It wouldn’t be as good as setting on the mcpcb shelf but it would probably still work.
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Without boring the shelf flat and getting rid of extra lip, the heatsink could be made with that extra lip cut into it. I don’t do it this way so I dont have any measurements to help with that.
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If you didn’t use the lens just add the lens height to the .295” heatsink measurement and that should take up the space.
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The bottom of the mcpcb shelf should be around .600” (15mm mcpcb with clearance). So that leaves .060 from my .660” head diameter measurement. That means the extra mcpcb shelf lip is about .030 in width. The top of the head where the reflector sets is actually bigger than where the heatsink would set. It has a lip at the mcpcb shelf and another about half way up the head where it increases in diameter at each lip. The top half of the head is bigger than the rest this allows the optic to fit with shaving.
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If you can make the right size heatsink, the optic and triple mcpcb can be filed down to fit. I filed the first one I made, the second one I cut on the lathe. Can’t really tell any difference, the lathe was just easier.

I measured the inside of the old rrt-01

A pic of the spacers I made -

Most of the heatsinking goes out the sides. The reason I made it that way is because I wanted to make the mod 100% reversible to stock. Rather than drilling another (5th) hole through the led shelf for routing the led wires I made a pocket under the spacer for the wires. This light is no hotrod so I wasn’t worried about the best possible heatsinking (I can’t see it making a huge difference anyway). Note - the height of this spacer is to suit the modified optics I did. I don’t know what height you would need to suit unmodified optics.

I measured the KD triple optic last night at .243” from the top down to where the legs would set on the mcpcb. That’s the total height installed not the actual height including the legs…
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On my heat sink, I drilled the triple mcpcb center hole half way thru the heatsink and then marked and drilled the wire holes from the mcpcb shelf at a angle towards the center hole I just drilled. Both wires run up at a angle and met in the middle. The heatsink sets flat on the mcpcb shelf.

Can you sell some of those pink panda?

Also interested

Sorry guys. That was a part of a run i did but won’t be doing again - Rolling wave of High CRI Triple or single N219b, or stock Jetbeam RRT-01 Rotaries

I heard on the grape vine that one is for sale but that is all i know.

I suggested to the seller that he post his offer for adoption, to the RRT-01 Triple LED group buy thread that pinkpanda links to above. Im available to answer questions and to share info about glow gasket and control ring packing upgrades…

since I put some nyogel 767a into the control ring of my pandamod triple sw45 Original RRT-01, it has been dialing buttery smooth… its a joy to use

theres a bit more to it… nothing is “just” a simple repack… a repack moves the light into a whole new quality level of ring feel… think, buttery smooth, like a nikon lens…

details like including working in extra lube around the edges of the ring, and spending quality time fidgeting with the ring… etc… will burnish the contact areas to eliminate gritty spots and create a deliciously smooth, one finger dialing experience. Don’t forget the locktite

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fwiw, this thread
Time to Mod the Jetbeam RRT-01

has a list of most of the parts used to mod the Original RRT-01 into a High CRI Nichia configuration. Also, as a reference, It also links to the spacer dimensions for a Triple LED mod here… I hope it helps people mod the Original RRT-01 host with some nice LEDs, beams, and dials. Rumor has it the RRT-01 is makes a great Dad Light… iow, very muggle friendly…lol

equal time
the New 2019 RRT-01 also is being built as a triple, scroll back a page to see a nice one…

for those who dont mod, I think Vinh will do a triple if you ask also… here are videos of his mods

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@wynand
I want to thank you for sharing that lead

thanks to your information I have done two group buys and purchased a total of 30 NOS Original RRT-01 light. They are being redistributed through BLF membership internationally, including Singapore, Germany, Holland, Croatia, Great Brittain, Australia, and USA

You can blame me for being the head instigator, but I stand on the shoulders of giants that have contributed skill, research and info about modding parts and supplies. Two of the standouts are pinkpanda and moderator007, to whom I remain eternally grateful for your sharing information, support and encouragement.

Others I credit, with respect, for helping me appreciate the unique benefits of the magnetic rotary UI, include Archibald Tuttle, Tip and Ring, and Fireclaw18

I also want to thank MascaratumB for starting this thread, whithout which I would not have been led to purchasing my first Original RRT-01, thanks to a kind BLF member classified.

there are many more people I could name, most of them are in this thread, that have been kind and helped me with support and encouragement, and some even sent me money… lol

thank you all for the community effort to bring more Rotary lights into circulation

about brass
what cools better,
copper star to aluminium pill, to titanium body (tcr-1)
or
copper star to brass pill, to aluminium body? (2019 RRT-01)

about lvp
I just tested 2019 RRT-01 driver w triple sw45:
I used depleted cr123 for the low voltage tests

440 lumens @ 3.8v 18350

380 lumens @ 4.0v 16340, I also get 380 w single sw30

170 lumens @ 2.8v CR123

15 lumens @ 2.6v CR123

there was no LVP,
the light just steps down to whatever it can do at any given voltage
but there is plenty of visual warning, by dimming and brightness step downs of the light.
more and more of the dial on the high end of the scale becomes non responsive, and creates no change in brightness

by the time the voltage is below 3 volts, the light is half as bright as on a full charge. I notice that.

a less experienced muggle, would notice the light when its only putting out 15 lumens, and that would not be below 2.5v…

so, for an operator who literally is not asleep, the dimming is obvious, before the battery is in serious overdischarge voltage, below 2.5v

I did not see the flashies you found at 3.0v, just step downs

but I liked learning that the light is going to have to get ridiculously dim, before Im in overdischarge territory… cause I like to use 18350 and only unprotected fit the Original RRT-01

If somebody wants to have 18650 original RRT01 with the matching body then there is a cure for that. See HERE.

One EU store still has few Niteye Eye15 in stock... PM me if you want more info.

Hum…isn’t that a “too” old thread?

[/quote]Hum...isn't that a "too" old thread? [/quote]

I won't think of it as an old since recent groupbuy for RRT01 is still in motion and some folks was wondering about battery options.

Old by meaning of timestamp yes but when modding is questionable than there's no such thing as old.

Sure , I was jus referring to the time it was created and with no further replies :wink:
With be old batches being sold currently, jon_slider courtesy, I figured there would be some other stuff related to these lights around !

I would only be interested in an extender to use it with 18650s (like these: Sold: Jetbeam RRT-01 18650 extender tube) , not a whole tube. I actually managed to use it with a Convoy or Sofirn tube, but it isn’t water/dust proof :zipper_mouth_face:

Sweeeeet!
Totally missed that thread.

What’s funny is that Niteye15 in EU cost almost like the these extension tubes LOOOOL
And titanium clip is included :slight_smile:

UPDATE: the store that had Niteye 15 sold all of it, was lucky to score 1

I need some help. Don’t have my2019 RRT01 with me and i’m about to order some stuff from KD but i left the notes with ’19 RRT reflector size.

If someone can take meassurement of new rrt reflector that would be great.
Wanna get OP for my other mod.
If it’s posted above please excuse my lazyness.