A recoil thrower may give further range but the reflection losses diminish the total light intensity. A forward looking R2 should shoot far enough.
I deleted my own sentence. I would write, you could upgrade the deep reflector shooter with a stronger emitter but you can't change a recoil throwers emitter, or pump more current due to lack of heatsink, but then I realized that a powerful emitter has a wider base and is more of a flooder in fact. These deep reflectors don't work well with even a tidy XM-L.
XR-E leds have a tighter beam (90 degrees) while XP-G's should have somewhat wider (~135 degrees ?). So they have the advantage to focus the light to a point. These deep reflectors are designed for an emitter with 90 degrees output and they work flawlessly with them. But with a wider angle emitter their walls scatter the light to different angles and can't focus as good.
XP-G and XM-L leds need a totally different, wider head design to throw farther. I guess in the sake of size, portability and modularity (to keep the same parts and machine settings) manufacturers choose to continue their older designs. I don't think there is a real limitation in throw with just the size of the emitter. There must be a way to throw a 1000 lm light while you can easily throw 200lm to 200m's. :)
For what reason do people use these? I mean I understand it can work as a spotlight under the rifle or a remote signalling light but I can't find any uses other than a light show toy.
I really don't have a pratical use for a recoil thrower but i would like to have one for no particular reason or greater purpose. Most of us have some flashlights we could live without yet we don't regret having them right?
Yes like those 5 EDC lights I bought last week :) Would make a triple battery SST-90 if I'd carry them altogether. Hımm, is this a sign, is it the time I should get an SST-90??
In fact, it is possible to change emitter in a recoil thrower, but it requires a lathe and a lot of work. I have experimented with different emitters in KD Viewfinder (KD version of UF-008), and I found that the best emitter is overdrived XR-C P3 thanks to smaller EZ700 die. Less overall output, but more throw. For the same reason, I changed R2 emitter in my HS-802 and put in Cree XR-C P3 from Romisen RC-G2. Less output, even smaller hotspot and over 30000 lux at 1 m.
Quick question. A typical Q5 "recoil" thrower is going to throw further than a typical FTT (like Romisen RC-C6) zoomed in?
I have not real use of a thrower but I like these "recoils" (by the way, I don't have real use for 40 flashlights either but that didn't stopped me... )
it will throw farther than that, but it won't throw farther than an R2 in a P60 host with an aspheric (plano convex) lens. i would have never thought this, but i now know from experience.
and yes, you should have one. if you're up to 40 lights, you might as well have 41...
yeah cool light technology for this flashlight, but if i wanted throw, i would also use a lens. less loss of efficiency for starters. an SST-90 asphyrical would throw, no?
for 14 bucks tho, this is cool if you just want one for no reason at all, other than to find out if you like it or not. wouldn't be hard to re-sell it for 20-30 bucks anyways.
Seriously, if you're looking for pure throw, and want to achieve it as cheaply as possible, it's one way to go. My son's C74 throws 75% as far as my Catapult V2, at roughly 15% of the cost of it (the V2). The beam profile is not going to win any awards, though...
recoil throwers, but even after I installed a new 1000mA single mode driver, I'm not really impressed. It does not much better than any of my other zooming lights.
I have an R5 that sits in a food can. It has a 66mm aspheric lens, along with a 1400mA driver and a 18650. This throws really well, but it's a bit bulky and ugly. I would say it reaches 300 meters easy. The bigger the aspheric lens the smaller is the image of the die. Fun to play around with, but no practical use either. As soon as China post finally decides to send my
wich I ordered mid november from Lightake, I will try, what the R5 does in that one. I guess with the bigger lens diameter, combined with the R5, I should end up with a zoomie that does about the same as the smaller zoomies do (same die size in throw), but with an increased light output. All that in a 3C Maglight form factor, could be nice.
you are going to make a throw monster out of that one aren't you? i always liked the recoil thrower i had, until i found out that an R2 in a P60 host with and aspheric (plano convex) lens, all inexpensive, and all from dx and b.o.b. out-threw it. i still like them for the novel concept, but i found out lens-based throwers are better. so, i agree.
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