*BLF LT1 Lantern Project) (updated Nov,17,2020)

[TitaniumLight]

From a brief 10 minute read through of this forum I would like to make sure I have most if not all of the current facts straight:

Price is:
$63 with 4 batteries
$50 with no batteries

Availability still to be announced

Emails related to people included on interest to buy list will go out October 10ish

Product currently available to order on Aliexpress site at non-discounted price

[nastynate]

The 10th? Is it really going to be that long? At least they might be here by Halloween if we get lucky.

[WolfDiesel]

@SIGShooter

IMPORTANT REMINDER

Everyone should check that their BLF user name is CORRECT in either the Interest list by entry number or Interest list by users name files. Both lists pulls from the same source so either one can be used. If your name is not in the files or is incorrectly spelled then you won’t be getting a PM when the buying instructions go out. If you have already checked then you can ignore this.

It’s possible that a separate PM will be sent for each lantern requested so also verify that you are on the lists for all lanterns that you desire. The “Interest list by user names” file has your name with the number of lanterns you are in for while the “Interest list by entry number” file lists each request separately and in the order they were made.

My username is correct, just the quantity to be updated to a total of two. Thank you!

[Kulumatic]

@SwissFlashy

I hope that the groupbuy can be purchased from AE too, because for example amazon.com does not ship to switzerland and amazon.de does not ship any Marketplace items to Switzerland.

I could forward it to you from Germany if needed

[snoopstah]

I’m currently down for two, please could you add one for a total of three.

[hannes13]

I want one more for a total of two. (#2251 on list)
thanks!

[gottawearshades]

Thanks for keeping track of all this data, sir.

And if I haven’t said before, thanks to TK, DBSAR, and the rest of the team for bringing this home.

@SIGShooter

IMPORTANT REMINDER

Everyone should check that their BLF user name is CORRECT in either the Interest list by entry number or Interest list by users name files. Both lists pulls from the same source so either one can be used. If your name is not in the files or is incorrectly spelled then you won’t be getting a PM when the buying instructions go out. If you have already checked then you can ignore this.

It’s possible that a separate PM will be sent for each lantern requested so also verify that you are on the lists for all lanterns that you desire. The “Interest list by user names” file has your name with the number of lanterns you are in for while the “Interest list by entry number” file lists each request separately and in the order they were made.

[Lux-Perpetua]

@ActiveAl

I admire you Lux-Perpetua - you have made the LT1 manual great and on time! Most people have no idea how difficult it is to do what you have accomplished! Thank you!

Thanks for your kind words ActiveAI. :-) But it's a collaborative success with everyone's contribution. BLF and this very lantern here are some of those outstanding examples proving that collective work can bring up great things to life. We should not forget to say 'thank you' to Sofirn for listening to the voice of the customer and for building this amazing lantern.

@fneuf

• Why no reference to the forum, like a "crowd-designed lantern" mention put near the title, along the first reference to the great Anduril? ► left as is, due to major layout changes
• The order in the battery brands suggestions does not look like random. I'd suggest to use alphabetical order to avoid the creation of the feeling of subjective inclinations. ► updated
• We write to use 5V USB sources in the safety precautions paragraphs, but later we say the user can go up to 15V sources. That feel inconsistent. ► left as is, see previous explanation
• Should the diffuser be described more as "textured" rather than "opaque"? ► updated, now using "frosted"
• I saw so far no words about protected or unprotected battery compatibility? ► updated, added "protected and unprotected"
• There are multiple references to the button-top batteries, do we really need to repeat it each time? ► left as is, see previous explanation
• To ease the natural ordering of the "Quick Start" part, I'd propose to numbered the main steps. Step 1, step 2, etc ► left as is, as the layout would have suffered (= too much hassle, sorry)
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• For disambiguation, I'd suggest to use "battery charger" instead of just "charger" (that might be mixed with USB charger). ► updated
• "70% max on ext. source" part is confusing. How the user is supposed to control/even know this figure? Shouldn't the LT1 automatically lower/control its output regarding the energy source? ► left as is, see previous explanation
• Some instructions are repeated. Like maximal dimensions of batteries (first paragraph, and again in specifications). General rule : are repetitions voluntarily made or can be "smartly" controlled? ► left as is, not feasible in such a short time, sorry
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• Some things looks not perfectly ordered. For instance, in UI texts we speak about levels (as in level 150) before introducing what levels are and what does they represent. ► left as is, not feasible in such a short time, sorry
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• Why not "for simplifying the UI for users who want a simpler experience."=> for simplifying the UI for users who wants an easier experience." or something the like? ► updated
• I'd propose that MUGGLE have an added explanation stating that it also intent to securise the usage of the LT1. ► left as is, see previous explanation
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• "3.1 volts or lower" => why not directly state "lower than 3.2" ? ► left as is, see previous explanation
• Correction Click three times, but hold the third click until the strobe mode stars.=> Click three times, but hold the third click until the strobe mode starts. ► updated

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@fneuf

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Last questions normally, two firsts are important to me to complete the translation; others are more suggestions/small typos :

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3. In my word editor many "double spaces" and "triple spaces" are hidden on the last pages. Mainly starting from this sentence " While the LT1 is ON in one of the ramping modes, click 4 times to enter RAMP CONFIGURATION for the current ramp." ► updated, double/triple space removed
4. To set the lowest possible level, click once. (MOON) => MOON is placed after the dot, while infact belonging to the previous sentence. ► updated
5. Ceiling clicks: 151 – ( level you want ) = Clicks To => Misses a dot before "To" ► updated
6. "To configure the LEDs, " => should be singular, as it refers to the switch LED. ► updated
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ToyKeeper and Lux-Perpetua, so far I've factored in all your answers to the french translation. Thanks.

Merci beaucoup pour ton aide, fneuf! :-)

I have incorporated most of your suggestions and rectified all typos you have found out. I have uploaded this new revision onto your working folder for the French translation. I have also put you on the credit list as part of the team (I hope DBSAR & the team won't mind) ;-)

The new revision is also uploaded to the public shared folder, see link in the OP of this thread for further information.

Sofirn will receive the final (I mean it! :-D ) revision of October 8, 2019 by tomorrow, so chances will be good to get it together with batch #2.

[sbslider]

@djozz

@sbslider

I’m pretty sure the group buy price/codes will be through Amazon, but subject to Sofirn’s final decision.

I’m pretty sure the group buy price/codes will not be exclusively through Amazon or most of the world and many on the list could not buy their LT1.

I probably post more info here than is necessary, as it only stirs things up that are out of my control. The details I assume are still being worked out. As I stated, Sofirn makes the final decision, not sbslider. However, I did read in our group chat recently a very long list of countries which Amazon will ship to. It’s my impression that the LT1 will be available on several different amazon sites, not just the US one. I will refrain from posting any more speculation regarding these details regarding if/how/when the LT1 will be available. To quote someone on here, it will be ready when its ready. And a new quotable, it will be available from who the manufacturer makes it available from.

see below the list of countries Barry from Sofirn believes can purchase from amazon:

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Cyprus, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Switzerland, Iceland, Norway, Albania, Andorra, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Montenegro, San Marino, Serbia, Vatican City State (Holy See), Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Gibraltar, Moldova Republic of, Greenland, Faroe Islands, Russia, Svalbard and Jan Mayen Islands, Japan, Mongolia, South Korea, Taiwan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Afghanistan, Brunei, Cambodia, East Timor, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, Myanmar, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, British Indian Ocean Territory, Canada, Mexico, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, French Guiana, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, Venezuela, Falkland Islands (Malvinas), Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama, Bahamas, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Barbados, Trinidad and Tobago, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Cayman Islands, Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Aruba, Bermuda, Dominica, Grenada, Guadeloupe, Jamaica, Martinique, Montserrat, Netherlands Antilles, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Turks and Caicos Islands, Virgin Islands (British), Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Comoros, Mauritius, Seychelles, Malawi, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Madagascar, Mayotte, Mozambique, Reunion, Angola, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo Democratic Republic of, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Sao Tome and Principe, Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Tunisia, Western Sahara, Botswana, Lesotho, Namibia, South Africa, Swaziland, Benin, Burkina Faso, Cape Verde, Ivory Coast, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Togo, Mauritania, Saint Helena, Fiji, New Caledonia, Papua New Guinea, Vanuatu, Solomon Islands, Kiribati, Nauru, Cook Islands, French Polynesia, Niue, Pitcairn, Samoa, Tokelau, Tonga, Tuvalu, Wallis and Futuna Islands, Australia, New Zealand, Norfolk Island, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Christmas Island

[adam7027]

@sbslider

@djozz

@sbslider

I’m pretty sure the group buy price/codes will be through Amazon, but subject to Sofirn’s final decision.

I’m pretty sure the group buy price/codes will not be exclusively through Amazon or most of the world and many on the list could not buy their LT1.

I probably post more info here than is necessary, as it only stirs things up that are out of my control. The details I assume are still being worked out. As I stated, Sofirn makes the final decision, not sbslider. However, I did read in our group chat recently a very long list of countries which Amazon will ship to. It’s my impression that the LT1 will be available on several different amazon sites, not just the US one. I will refrain from posting any more speculation regarding these details regarding if/how/when the LT1 will be available. To quote someone on here, it will be ready when its ready. And a new quotable, it will be available from who the manufacturer makes it available from.

see below the list of countries Barry from Sofirn believes can purchase from amazon:

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Still, this approach (of the available shipping destination country list Barry gave to promote Amazon purchase) ignores that there are a fairly large portion of customers, who still prefer buying Sofirn on AliExpress (and wouldn’t want to use Amazon at all).

Manual price adjustment after stopping the order (and telling BLF username) before paying would be the best for those people - there were already previous group buys organized like that.

So I will sit, listen and hope for that scenario until there are more new info available.

[djozz]

I did not know that, looks an impressive amount of countries. I hope that the free shipping and cost-free customs passing that is common for chinese packages will work just as well through Amazon, or better. I’m ok I think, Amazon-de is within the EU.

[adam7027]

@djozz

I did not know that, looks an impressive amount of countries. I hope that the free shipping and cost-free customs passing that is common for chinese packages will work just as well through Amazon, or better. I’m ok I think, Amazon-de is within the EU.

At first thought, amazon de could have also worked for me, but I guess, there will be shipping prices like 15-25 EUR, and that will greatly hinder the discount given by the original group price agreement.

[SwissFlashy]

@sbslider I just know that at the moment all the offers from Sofirn on amazon won’t be shipped to Switzerland. It is possible for sellers to ship to Switzerland, but most of them do not want the hassle and opt out of all countries except the ones that are part of the EU customs union.

[Lagittaja]

So… What is Sofirn’s Amazon.de store, is it the “77 Outdoor” store?
Looking at the seller information and comparing to the AliExpress business license they seem to match, 8th floor Ji’anju building etc etc.

@adam7027

@djozz

I did not know that, looks an impressive amount of countries. I hope that the free shipping and cost-free customs passing that is common for chinese packages will work just as well through Amazon, or better. I’m ok I think, Amazon-de is within the EU.

At first thought, amazon de could have also worked for me, but I guess, there will be shipping prices like 15-25 EUR, and that will greatly hinder the discount given by the original group price agreement.

Not exactly. You’re from Hungary? If an item is dispatched from and sold by Amazon or Fulfilled by Amazon (=sent by Amazon from their warehouse) then it looks like Standard Delivery to Hungary is 5.99€. Express Delivery would be 8.99€.
https://www.amazon.de/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_gt_dd_intldelivery_en/?nodeId=201910850

Of course there should be VAT included in the prices so there’s that. Not sure what the price of LT1 will be on Amazon.

But of the dozen Sofirn flashlights I looked at on Amazon.de sold by 77 Outdoor almost all were Fulfilled by Amazon.
And those that were not, as in dispatched from and sold by 77 Outdoor i.e. from China, say Free Delivery on them. But at that point it makes no difference to buy on Amazon or on AliExpress since that item will ship from China.

Edit: Oh and let’s not forget that Amazon.de offers free Standard Delivery to certain EU countries if the order amount exceeds a certain amount. This applies to dispatched from and sold by Amazon and Fulfilled by Amazon products.
29€ limit: Belgium, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and the Netherlands.
39€ limit: Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland (yey), Poland and Sweden

Of course there’s also Amazon Prime stuff but this post is long enough already.

[SIGShooter]

@WolfDiesel

@SIGShooter

IMPORTANT REMINDER

Everyone should check that their BLF user name is CORRECT in either the Interest list by entry number or Interest list by users name files. Both lists pulls from the same source so either one can be used. If your name is not in the files or is incorrectly spelled then you won’t be getting a PM when the buying instructions go out. If you have already checked then you can ignore this.

It’s possible that a separate PM will be sent for each lantern requested so also verify that you are on the lists for all lanterns that you desire. The “Interest list by user names” file has your name with the number of lanterns you are in for while the “Interest list by entry number” file lists each request separately and in the order they were made.

My username is correct, just the quantity to be updated to a total of two. Thank you!

I already have you in for 2.

[Raptor2018]

If it is not too late I would like to add two more lights to the group buy for a total of four lights. I currently have #769 and #1631.

[ActiveAl]

FWIW, one can navigate to their BLF account and send themselves a Personal Message to verify they are setup for the upcoming LT1 PM.

[brenden23]

Please add 2 to my order.

Should be at a total of 3 now.

[sovereignknight]

Ouch. The price is almost that of a Fenix CL30R. Since I already own that, I can’t justify the price on the LT1.

Corrected a typo lol

[SIGShooter]

@ActiveAl

FWIW, one can navigate to their BLF account and send themselves a Personal Message to verify they are setup for the upcoming LT1 PM.

That would only confirm that they can get a PM. However it doesn’t confirm that their BLF user name is correct in my database which is the source that will be used for sending out the LT PM. I know for a fact that there is a WWWW entry (#117) on the list that does not exist in BLF and as such that person won’t be getting a LT PM.

Since it only takes a few minutes (and is a 1-time thing) to verify the accuracy of one’s name in the linked Excel files I think it behooves everyone to do so.

In addition since it appears that sending out a PM for each lantern requested with a unique code is on the boards everyone should also verify that their count is correct as they will only be getting as many PM’s as I have them in for.

I could also send out a test PM to everyone and see which one’s are rejected but I don’t think that people will be happy getting spam’ed