*BLF LT1 Lantern Project) (updated Nov,17,2020)

Tally-ho · October 10, 2019, 7:24pm

I’m on the list for 2x LT1, please put me down for a third one.

superspeckman · October 10, 2019, 7:29pm

I see “Sofirn has decided to limit group buy purchases to 3000 units” and “one order per person, one unit per order”. Does that mean every member is limited to one unit in the GB and then will have to wait until the unit is widely available for more?

SIGShooter · October 10, 2019, 7:35pm

alternety:

Some thoughts for early adopters.

I signed up in the early second hundred requests. I also bought early versions of the flashlight that begat this lantern.

Early is not necessarily a good thing.

For those early supporters, it would be very nice if you did not constrain early adopters to the first version. I have read things here that are a bit confusing. Offering the “first batch” to the people waiting for 3+ years, while new requests get the second batch with some fixes. It has been presented as minor differences between batches. I can understand that. But why will I be required to buy the not-quite-ready version.

One solution is to enter a new request, delete or ignore the existing request, and wait for the arrival of the end of batch 2.

I realize it is way late to rearrange things. But it might be reasonable to offer original (early) backers a position other than a semi-final device. An option for the early adopters to be placed in the beginning of the batch 2 would seem to be a reasonable solution. Many may not care if they get V1. Some (me) would prefer v2.

As I understand the current approach, it punishes the early adopters. Deleting an early position and going to the end of the batch 2 does not seem reasonable.

Well… Hindsight is perfect. There was no way to know that there would be more than 1 version (and the differences other than color are minor) or how Sofirn wanted to structure the group buy.

sbslider · October 10, 2019, 7:37pm

alternety:

Some thoughts for early adopters.

I signed up in the early second hundred requests. I also bought early versions of the flashlight that begat this lantern.

Early is not necessarily a good thing.

For those early supporters, it would be very nice if you did not constrain early adopters to the first version. I have read things here that are a bit confusing. Offering the “first batch” to the people waiting for 3+ years, while new requests get the second batch with some fixes. It has been presented as minor differences between batches. I can understand that. But why will I be required to buy the not-quite-ready version.

One solution is to enter a new request, delete or ignore the existing request, and wait for the arrival of the end of batch 2.

I realize it is way late to rearrange things. But it might be reasonable to offer original (early) backers a position other than a semi-final device. An option for the early adopters to be placed in the beginning of the batch 2 would seem to be a reasonable solution. Many may not care if they get V1. Some (me) would prefer v2.

As I understand the current approach, it punishes the early adopters. Deleting an early position and going to the end of the batch 2 does not seem reasonable.

no one is forced to buy the lantern early. Sofirn knows folks will want to wait for the second batch.

Life is full of risks, this is one of them. buy early, risk a lower quality unit. wait until later, risk your code runs out and you don’t get it from your favorite source.

BTW, lights are shipping from China (for now), so if you’re waiting for the light to be stateside or somewhere else, you may have an even longer wait.

My response is not meant to change your opinion, just posting my personal thoughts on your dilemma.

Wrench · October 10, 2019, 7:39pm

The instructions make zero sense. How do you choose which seller you get to use? eBay. Amazon etc.

sbslider · October 10, 2019, 7:49pm

no, it means if you requested 4 lanterns, you will make possibly up to 4 purchases. If you choose to wait until more units are available, I suspect Sofirn will allow multiple lanterns in one purchase from ebay and aliexpress as outlined in the last post from user Sofirn

DavidEF · October 10, 2019, 7:47pm

SIGShooter:

alternety:

Some thoughts for early adopters.

I signed up in the early second hundred requests. I also bought early versions of the flashlight that begat this lantern.

Early is not necessarily a good thing.

For those early supporters, it would be very nice if you did not constrain early adopters to the first version. I have read things here that are a bit confusing. Offering the “first batch” to the people waiting for 3+ years, while new requests get the second batch with some fixes. It has been presented as minor differences between batches. I can understand that. But why will I be required to buy the not-quite-ready version.

One solution is to enter a new request, delete or ignore the existing request, and wait for the arrival of the end of batch 2.

I realize it is way late to rearrange things. But it might be reasonable to offer original (early) backers a position other than a semi-final device. An option for the early adopters to be placed in the beginning of the batch 2 would seem to be a reasonable solution. Many may not care if they get V1. Some (me) would prefer v2.

As I understand the current approach, it punishes the early adopters. Deleting an early position and going to the end of the batch 2 does not seem reasonable.

Well… Hindsight is perfect. There was no way to know that there would be more than 1 version (and the differences other than color are minor) or how Sofirn wanted to structure the group buy.

Not only that, but hasn’t it been said already that the code will be good for up to 30 days? Surely, the first batch lights will all have sold by then, and the second batch lights will be shipping. The “first batch” codes shouldn’t be strictly tied to “first batch” lights in any meaningful way. So, if an “early supporter” wanted to, they should be able to just wait a little while before ordering. Am I right, or am I making some wrong assumptions?

sbslider · October 10, 2019, 7:50pm

DavidEF:

SIGShooter:

alternety:

Some thoughts for early adopters.

I signed up in the early second hundred requests. I also bought early versions of the flashlight that begat this lantern.

Early is not necessarily a good thing.

For those early supporters, it would be very nice if you did not constrain early adopters to the first version. I have read things here that are a bit confusing. Offering the “first batch” to the people waiting for 3+ years, while new requests get the second batch with some fixes. It has been presented as minor differences between batches. I can understand that. But why will I be required to buy the not-quite-ready version.

One solution is to enter a new request, delete or ignore the existing request, and wait for the arrival of the end of batch 2.

I realize it is way late to rearrange things. But it might be reasonable to offer original (early) backers a position other than a semi-final device. An option for the early adopters to be placed in the beginning of the batch 2 would seem to be a reasonable solution. Many may not care if they get V1. Some (me) would prefer v2.

As I understand the current approach, it punishes the early adopters. Deleting an early position and going to the end of the batch 2 does not seem reasonable.

Well… Hindsight is perfect. There was no way to know that there would be more than 1 version (and the differences other than color are minor) or how Sofirn wanted to structure the group buy.

Not only that, but hasn’t it been said already that the code will be good for up to 30 days? Surely, the first batch lights will all have sold by then, and the second batch lights will be shipping. The “first batch” codes shouldn’t be strictly tied to “first batch” lights in any meaningful way. So, if an “early supporter” wanted to, they should be able to just wait a little while before ordering. Am I right, or am I making some wrong assumptions?

I personally believe you are correct.

GreenLights · October 10, 2019, 8:07pm

Does anyone know if the 3000mAh Sofirn batteries offered during the GB are “protected”?

Propeak · October 10, 2019, 8:19pm

Hello, can you please add another 2 more units for met please? Should be a total of 4 now.
Many thanks and rock on!

barbuto · October 10, 2019, 8:29pm

Can I join the order?

DBSAR · October 10, 2019, 8:30pm

I am unsure exactly actually, they didn’t say if they were or not that i recall, but i believe they are non-protected. (there is no mention in their Ebay listing with the batteries on that.

saypat · October 10, 2019, 8:34pm

can someone in the know clarify if one can order a light with cells from Amazon, or only E-Bay or the other place? Thanks.

SIGShooter · October 10, 2019, 8:36pm

DavidEF:

SIGShooter:

alternety:

Some thoughts for early adopters.

I signed up in the early second hundred requests. I also bought early versions of the flashlight that begat this lantern.

Early is not necessarily a good thing.

For those early supporters, it would be very nice if you did not constrain early adopters to the first version. I have read things here that are a bit confusing. Offering the “first batch” to the people waiting for 3+ years, while new requests get the second batch with some fixes. It has been presented as minor differences between batches. I can understand that. But why will I be required to buy the not-quite-ready version.

One solution is to enter a new request, delete or ignore the existing request, and wait for the arrival of the end of batch 2.

I realize it is way late to rearrange things. But it might be reasonable to offer original (early) backers a position other than a semi-final device. An option for the early adopters to be placed in the beginning of the batch 2 would seem to be a reasonable solution. Many may not care if they get V1. Some (me) would prefer v2.

As I understand the current approach, it punishes the early adopters. Deleting an early position and going to the end of the batch 2 does not seem reasonable.

Well… Hindsight is perfect. There was no way to know that there would be more than 1 version (and the differences other than color are minor) or how Sofirn wanted to structure the group buy.

Not only that, but hasn’t it been said already that the code will be good for up to 30 days? Surely, the first batch lights will all have sold by then, and the second batch lights will be shipping. The “first batch” codes shouldn’t be strictly tied to “first batch” lights in any meaningful way. So, if an “early supporter” wanted to, they should be able to just wait a little while before ordering. Am I right, or am I making some wrong assumptions?

Barry made the code good for 30 days so if someone wants to wait and batch 2 is within that period then yes the code can be used for batch 2 LTs. The 30 days was chosen for just that reason.

Short answer is yes you’re right

SIGShooter · October 10, 2019, 8:38pm

Currently just ebay and aliexpress. The PM from Sofirn should contain the url’s for those 2 sites.

barbuto · October 10, 2019, 8:55pm

I apologize, I recently on this forum. Please explain how I can participate in the purchase of this flashlight?

sbslider · October 10, 2019, 9:10pm

This post from Sofirn outlines how to purchase one of the first 500 immediately, at least that’s how I interpret it. Seems like its open season for the first 500 LT1s via ebay or ali. I made an offer on one at 5am PDT and have not yet heard back if it was accepted or not. I suspect later this evening.

atobe · October 10, 2019, 9:14pm

Oh I thought it was open for all when I saw Sofirn’s message. I made an offer anyways on eBay opps.

RollerBoySE · October 10, 2019, 9:17pm

I thought we had to wait for a personal code ???

BrianK · October 10, 2019, 9:38pm

If there is a way to get it shipped to you then all you need to do is let the folks here know how many you want and you’ll be added to the list. The list doesn’t mean you are committed to buy. That comes later when money changes hands.