Teaser XML-3 Coming 5A rated

My concern as well.

finally, a new version of XM-L led

the yellow is lighter compared with other Flip chip LEDs of cree, so this will be interesting
edit: i can see 2 electrical wires, so it may not use Flip chip design

avail samples perhaps Dec 2019
vf quoted as 2.82 at 700ma
1513 Lumens at 5Amp
Cheers
Mark

SSt-40 is at 1703 lumens at 5 amps according to datasheet.

dont see P2 bin in their list of actual avail part numbers, is P2 out there? Cree data is based on side by side steady state test of SST-40 N5 bin next to XML3 U4 bin

SST-40 is in N4 and N5 available
so 1503-1603lm 85°C 5A

the question is how much current those bond wires take

About time :smiley:

Interesting news. Would be good to see document as well.
No flip chip is also welcome (I hate ‘Cree rainbow’).

Also, sometimes in the future, Cree should also make a domeless 5050 LED as well, there could be long lines forming for that.

Some bottom lines:
Cree should really improve its CRI classes, instead of ‘min 0 typ 68’, ‘min 70’, ‘min 80’, ‘min 90’, they should use ‘min 80’, ‘min 90’ and ‘min 95’ - under CRI 80 it is only garbage.

Waste no time :)) my friend, send 'em a suggestion so we can all enjoy the improvements ASAP.

It would also help more than a lot if people were to stop buying :-D “garbage” low-CRI led emitters, like me and others do. And while we're not the only customers, this is no license to get off our donkeys. O:)

Similar Vf, similar output it seems. Tests will tell which is better. Cree is likely to offer CRI 68-70-80-90 while Luminus has 70 and prepares 95.
Cree is likely to offer many CCTs while Luminus is cool only and CRI 95 will be warm only, at least initially.
Any hints on die size?
I wonder how’s beam greenness…

All my Olights are waiting patiently for some high CRI goodness from either Cree or Luminus…

You honestly think they would make changes if a few enthusiasts stopped buying a few led’s? They literally wouldn’t even notice…

Any info on these yet ?

Wow, back to the old style?

The picture looks all yellow, but you can see the sides of the die, so there’s apparently no phosphor covering the whole thing.
Just seems the picture is all yellow (even the dome).
…or did they just adapt a picture of an XM-L2 ?

I hope they will use beefed up bond wires.
You can see in the tests that LEDs with bond wires increase in Vf when you push them hard.

Hopefully there will be an XP-G sized “new old style” one in the planning too !

You’re right. :person_facepalming:

Ah… :person_facepalming:

any update?

Bringing this back up as we might be nearing launch of these emitters

Oh yeah? Heard anything recently?

There’s now a datasheet and a real product image and welight seems to hint that they are around the corner…