Massive fraud on 18650s in the Littokala Aliexpress stores!

For genuine cells here in Canada, i buy all my Li-Ion cells from https://18650canada.com

If they’re 15A they’re good enough for my use, but I’m worried they might leak.

I bought some legit Samsung 40T from a french eBay seller to be sure I have some decent ones.

See what I said above. They still hold their voltage well at 15A and can be considered “15A”, albeit technically they're not 15A, just close.

How is a li-ion cell going to leak? Without puncturing the can, that is. And you don't want to puncture a standard li-ion cell, my dear:

Source thread: Testing 18650 Safety - Russian Ukrainian Style

P.S.: some people has managed to make cylindrical cells leak, spot welding the cells wildly by hand. Proper spot welding requires precise timings and current flow.

Mon, 10/28/2019 - 21:15

No, the code format has changed somewhat over the years, but it’s on the metal can itself. See HERE. We also recently discussed this somewhat HERE.

More OT: This is par for the course, but the page repeatedly says it has “6-Bit” high-resolution display, but I’m pretty sure that it actually means 6 digit resolution; a 6-bit resolution would be rather useless :slight_smile: .

I'll try and do a mini review and post it when it arrives :)

So often I see reviews that aren’t tech reviews. People give 5 stars because the cell is cheap and arrived quickly in a sturdy package.
Some ad some technical information how great it is that their previous AAA cell was just 700 mAh and the new one 2000 mAh :slight_smile:

But you are right some people have tested a certain cell before they ordered at the Liitokala store.
But… those tests are only useful if the (rewrap) they bought is really what they tested before.
And that’s the core topic of this thread; are the cells at Liitokala as advertized? That can only be known by testing.

I can add my personal experience with the official store is good. Runtimes are as expected. But then, I bought only 2 different types of cells, so in no way I’m qualified to claim all cells they sell are great or that types I bought before are still a good deal because a rewrap can contain even a piece of wood :slight_smile:

I like the EBD-M05 device, the fact it can connect to a computer and obtain discharge graphs with adequate software makes it nifty. It would rock for it to have an Android app…

That’s mean!!!
I’m on a buying detox and now you post a gadget to feed my habit :slight_smile:
(10A max would make it even better)

Kewl, tnx! I found that thread last night, didn’t realise it was just on the can and not on the wrapper. :person_facepalming:

I ordered from that same link a few weeks back , they are not terrible

Not sure id want to try dragging 10C out of them but they seem perfectly happy at 10 or so amps

Good to know, they might not be that terrible after all. Might be worth their price.

oh shit

It is better to focus on things from a depolarized perspective. You must be obtaining tangible benefits from what you call a habit.

But not all habits render benefits (if any), drug addictions being one them. This is because any possible benefits are linked to the detrimental presence of the drug in your body, which is linked to the light-force draining presence of negative entities attached to your subtle bodies. Thus, only via mind-reprogramming it is possible to bring back the benefits without harm.

The cells are good, pretty sure some decent standard 2C discharge high capacity cell from some OEM.

Getting good cells isn't the problem, the problem lies in the dubious nature of the rewraps, often with false advertising, and the corresponding lack of information concerning what we are really buying. This is wrong and it has my Seal of Disapproval®.

I would also add single cells might perform good, but how they would work in series? Quality should be uniform, but we don’t know nothing about it nor we can be certain what we’ll get next time or even in the same batch.

Your consistency concerns are understandable ledoman. From the standpoint of a battery pack builder, if cell consistency can't be guaranteed all units need to be carefully tested and binned. This takes time and effort which is money. I obtained channel measurement correction indexes for my Lii-500, just in case I were to need it for such role.

Hmm, “L0J4” on all the cells under the wrap, so acto this

3rd Digit:
A = 2010
B = 2011
C = 2012
D = 2013
E = 2014
F = 2015

4th Digit:
1 = Jan
2 = Feb
3 = Mar
4 = Apr
5 = May
6 = Jun
7 = Jul
8 = Aug
9 = Sep
A = Oct
B = Nov
C = Dec

it’d be April 2019, so not bad at all.

Sigh. Thanks for the warning in the original post. I came across these “30Q” cells in Ali and actually thought, briefly, that they might be a good deal.

Yep. Still really salty that they changed the name and photos.

Getting them to give you a refund with that change back in late 2017 made me auite angry.

I'd like to make a brief comment here. I often see people complaining that this is fraud and blah blah blah. Well, from their perspective what they're doing is 0K, and to some point it is because they're not selling cells under a trademark they don't own, technically their trademark is LiitoKala. On a shadier note they use big brand cell model numbers, and on an even more shady note “they” wrap their cells making 'em look like cells from the big brands. I do not endorse this but it has its reasons, one of them is they're serving a market of uninformed people who may be thinking they're buying the real deal, and also a market of consumers who don't give a flunk. Bad and bad, and to cap it all the lack of information concerning the industrial products they're selling under the wraps. And it's not only LiitoKala, you know.

For now the best you can do is deal with it, spread knowledge and raise the vibration of those who don't know. The big brands don't give (much of) a flunk about this, their stuff is cut and dried.

Chinese cells can be bought with non or a lot less spurious wraps, see for example this Colaier G35 cells advertisement (looks like some sort of high capacity cell from BAK).