Yes and no.
With optics, XP-L HI and SST-20 have quite comparable beam widths; the latter being a bit narrower despite having a dome.
For most uses where one would consider XP-L HI, SST-20 is worth thinking about as well.
BTW I wish there were intermediate CRI variants of SST-20. And a factory domeless option.
CRI95 is indeed inefficient, the price one has to pay for pushing CRI this high is very significant while CRI80-90 is not so bad in other modern LEDs (about 5-10% for 80, 15-20% for 90). CRI95 in SST-20 costs very roughly 45% output. :person_facepalming:
Looking at HaikeLite's new HT70 I wonder if Sofirn could consider upgrading their SP33 V2 (boost-driven 6V XHP50.2) with the new Luminus SST-70 including SMO reflector. According to Djozz' test it should output around 3.500lm at 5A (that's about the max. current SP33 V2 used). They could call it "SP33 V3 Pro".
SP33 V3 = 3V XHP50.2, FET driver, OP reflector, proprietary Sofirn UI
SP33 V3 Pro = 6V SST-70, boost driver, SMO reflector, Andúril UI, desert tan color
I really hope the majority is not always looking for more and more lumens, only. There are so many advantages to be expected such as a more stable runtime (even on turbo), less tintshift compared to the 3V XHP50.2, better throw and - most important - less heat generation at 6V. You need 10A at 3V what you can achieve with 5A at 6V.
Sofirn is currently working on a new corporate design, including a new slogan they may put on their cardboard boxes. The slogan should ideally reflect following content: high quality, reliable products, great customer service and affordable prices. Your input will be deeply appreciated. :THUMBS-UP:
I disagree. A 6V XHP50.2 runs much more efficient at 6V 5A than a 3V XHP50.2 at 3V 10A. Regarding the lumens output I was referring to Djozz' diagram (3.500lm @5A), that's why I expected the overall output to increase. Again, what good is a 3.500lm FET light that will step down very quickly due to excess heat and that can only reach this peak value once and only with a fully charged battery while you can get a bit lower but more or less constant regulated output with better components (boost driver, higher voltage, better emitter)? My impression about SP33 is that many people were asking for the SMO reflector to get more throw. This would be a great opportunity to have both better throw and better tint without defining everything new again.
I don’t think there is any opinion as far as 10A@3v and 5A@6v. It is basic ohms law. We are talking about the same amount of power.
If you look at that diagram
you can see the dark red line which is the 50.2. It is virtually the same output at 5A@6v. And this is an older J4 bin 50.2. Newer versions have better bins with a little higher output.
Also keep in mind that just because a bare led measures 3500 lumen doesn’t mean that you will get the same from a flashlight. You always get less due to losses in the reflector/optic and lens. In the SP33 50.2 I measure about 2200 lumen out the front (OTF). I did not measure current at the emitter, but I think it’s about 2.7A or so. I measure 5.8A on the battery. 2.7A on that chart, plus the losses gives you about 2200 lumen OTF.
With a FET driver you are not regulated to 5A@6v. You might get 8A or so and then you might see 3500 lumen OTF. Of course the wattage is now 40W, a 33% increase and it will generate more heat.
If you used the SST-70 in the SP33 50.2 boost driver version you would get nicer tint and longer throw, even with the stock reflector as it’s barely textured. If that is what you want, it would be a good swap.
BTW, why are we talking about 5A@6v with the SP33 boost driver? I checked my notes and it’s way less than that. Probably about 2.7A@6v.
I like that slogan, too. Originally, I would have favored our initial BLF approach of "Sofirn...turns night into day" or maybe a nice hommage to the book of Genesis by using "Sofirn...let there be light".
However, I wish we could have this phrase of yours just a little bit shorter without losing their intended message. How about these ideas?
"Sofirn...no compromises in quality, service and price"
"Sofirn...no trade-offs in quality, service and price"
"Sofirn...turns innovation into light"
"Sofirn...great lights at affordable prices"
"Sofirn...great lights for everyone's needs"
"Sofirn...great lights for everyone"
They also want to think about a new nice logo for a better corporate design.
I think we all agree that it would look much more appealing with a nice logo instead of their brand name simply laser-engraved in Times New Roman font. ;-)
I fully agree. I heard that from a marketing-psychologic point of view it's always better to express things in the affirmative. I'm no native English speaker either and I want to avoid marketing disasters like some adverstisements of popular brands, e.g. Mitsubishi's "Pajero", Mazda's "LaPuta" or Chevrolet's "Nova" in Spanish-speaking countries... :FACEPALM: :D
