[M4D deal] Nightwatch NI40 with Luminus SBT90 Gen2 interest list OPEN

Well for these kind of lights that are FET driven, higher voltage on those curves mean higher amps, which means higher lumens/throw. It's not a direct relationship however, so doubling the amps doesn't mean doubling the lumens - it's lower than double, and at higher amps, it could be much lower than double. Basically you lose efficiency the higher the amps are. So we tend to push the LED's way past their rated max, and once you get into that territory, the gains are less. I'm sure heat is a factor in the reduced output.

For the batt discharge curves, we want to see the voltage as high as possible for the full discharge. If you look at various know good cells vs. avg cells, at differing amp levels, you can see the better cells will have higher voltage curves.

Take a look at a Samsung 30Q vs. a 30T, then look at the 1A level, then the 20A level. At 1A, almost the same, but at 20A the 30T far exceeds the 30Q. Those 0.2V/0.25V differences makes a big difference in amps.

I got it from a graph in the datasheet you posted. I’m not sure if it’s correct but it showed the voltage and Relative Luminous Flux.

Ahh, ok. The charts on page 7 here: SBT90.2 LED Spec. They kind of end at 22.5 amps, and it seems like the Vf would be low enough to be obtainable on a good FET driver. We'll have to see. I'm wondering now about the Acebeam TK75 getting a rated 6300 lumens. They would have to hit at least 30 amps to do so. Specs could be overrated.

To me, this light may very well need a GOLISI cell. The amps out of a single cell is crazy, about as much as my triple XHP50.2 3V Amutorch X9, custom modded of course... I hit just over 30 amps on a GOLISI in that light. But i also get about double the lumens (11K-12K or so).

I agree and I am prepared. Also have 4 X Aspire 26650 4300 as back up. All brand new cells.

Where is the best place to buy a fresh GOLISI 26650?

Without some kind of high current spacer no one should expect such a high current light to support both sizes. The size difference is just too big to maintain proper contact for both sizes.

Even bypassed springs will work better when there is higher spring pressure on the terminals. All things equal the shorter battery will always be inferior in such a setup. They need to just stop advertising support for both.

Are the Golisi 4300, Aspire 4300 and Shockli 4300 the same cell? According to HKJs graphs the Shockli seems a bit worse than the Golisi in the first 700mah. Are they normal variations in performance or are they different cells?

Edit: Mooch says the iJoy, Aspire and Golisi appear to be the same cell though in HKJs test the iJoy seems to perform a bit worse than the Shockli/Golisi.

In the states- Shipped from Texas Only 14 left

https://www.vapewild.com/golisi-imr-26650-35a-4300mah-s43-battery/

Europe or elsewhere-Shipped from China

No,Shockli 4300 has more of a voltage sag especially at 15A and above.

Golisi and Aspire have been said to be the same cell by the reviewer below.

Not sure - I wouldn't trust those Shockli's though. Yes, definite differences there - look at capacity differences as well - Shockli's test higher. I got a whole bunch of 26650 cells. The iJoy 4200's do pretty good, but less than the Golisi's.

Wow, the Soshine 32650 blows away the Golisi, and the 30T for that matter... Hhhmmm.

Vinh claims his modded K75 to deliver fewer lm, so yes, they are overrated. :down:

Ok - his K75 mod is here: https://skylumen.com/collections/v54-lights/products/acebeam-k75vn-best-ultra-thrower... 5300 lumens max, with a little bump in throw to 1.75 Mcd, if 250 kcd is a little...

@BaronVonEissler

Thank you! You are a valued member of BLF, even if you only officially made your account yesterday! Please stick around, friend!

5300lumens! Does a bigger reflector mean more light is lost or is that something I just made up in head?

Is that from a reputable dealer? With a quick search for golisi cell on google, a lot of vape stores pop up. But who knows if they are the real deal cells.

You are welcome. :beer:

They work well for me and the capacities were all just over 4300mAh.

When we do a google search Vape stores are the only ones who sell them other than China.

After doing some calculations… I have come the conclusion that the Golisi/Aspire should be around 20% brighter (over 5A more) than the shockli. Might be more. Who knows? but I don’t like being too optimistic about things like this. Don’t wanna end being disappointed. Oh yh and thanks for the recommendations @BaronVonEissler.

Thanks, I bought two from vapewild. Hope the site is legit. I’m always wary of trying new battery sites. Aliexpress sells this cell too but when it comes to batteries, I don’t buy from Ali unless it is a well known vendor.

I bought my 2 GOLISI's from 3avape back in March - seem good to me. They came in nice black plastic cases. Shipping is up there but usually is.