FW4A and HL3A interest and discussion thread

Ahah, no, I didn’t miss that, but that was the “obvious” for me, that the output would increase :wink: And, of course, wanting powerful lights as we do, that is something we cannot neglect :smiley:

But I was more “concerned” about efficiency and runtime in this case and the heat production. Of course, if they do this, they must add, at least, thicker MCPCBs for even better thermal path. Still, it will be hot!!!

Most of these questions are due to my “subscription” for the FW21 (triple with 21700), but also the dilemma between this FW4A and the Emisar D4, that is already a pocket rocket with 4 leds.

So, I will decide what to do and see what the wallet allows me. If a Quad FW21 appears, I will probably get it, but maybe I will skip this FW4A.

Martin, please remove from the “interest” list for now!! :wink:
I’ll keep on looking to this, though :wink:

BTW, please be warned that the aluminium bezel will probably scratch easier than the SS bezel using the double sided clip and the 18350 tube!! Just saying :wink:

Yes, but 21700 x 4 will still give longer runtimes than 21700 x 3? This is the part I am really not sure and want to clarify in my head :zipper_mouth_face:

Right, better heat dissipation for the higher amount of heat as well! I hope that some extra meausures are taken to manage that extra heat!

Thanks for your answer !!! :+1:

I’llskip this obe for sure. Only 21700 is acceptable for quad if you ask me.

instead i got D4V2 Ti.

Interested!

Are there easily accessible pads on the HL3 driver to flash the firmware?

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Thank you for the pics Kindle! Now that you uploaded them I see that the ones in the first pics show up as well (I suppose Martin has edited the post silently).

On HL3A vs. Fireflies PL47 - the latter is 21700 which is a major reduction of comfort but give much longer runtime.
Despite many similarities I view them as so different that I wouldn’t even call them competitors - though I see that others would. So apparently I would be wrong. :wink:

In FW4A - I’m a bit diappointed that it doesn’t use a 22 mm Manker lens. Not that I expected that from Lumintop but with that lens it would be quite a bit smaller and throwier as well. And I agree it deserves 21700….

I would not say competitor to the HL3A vs PL47, but they are similar with their outer appearance, position of driver, LEDs, ….

In the very early development of the FW3A, together with fritz and perhaps only in the TLF I think, was discussed to make it with 21700. But for that the head was too small.
But now with the 4 Emitter head, it must be a 21700 flashlight. And with that it will have the same appearance as the FW3A.

Interested in the HL3A.

I just imagined 18x led, GT size “FW3A” that is just much bigger, but looks exactly the same as FW3A :laughing:

love it, I’m in

@agro not silent ;)


Interested

I take my words back. Sorry. And thank you. :slight_smile:

Lumintop: There wil be also FW4A powered by 21700

^:)

I’m in lol

Is that official?

;)

but its not final decided to be built iirc