Sofirn SP36 spewed toxic chemicals throughout my entire house

Well that’s depressing. So this probably won’t go away? I wonder what it’s off-gassing exactly. I don’t think anyone really knows what it is or what effect it could have on health.

It’s created by the burning of the materials in the chip. What materials those are exactly could be determined by looking up the chip on Mouser.com or the like. I don’t think it would help your situation though. Mostly everything just needs a good wash. Including your walls and floor apparently.

I think you’re right that charging with individual battery bays like in an external charger is safer than charging multiple cells simultaneously in parallel inside a flashlight.

That said, the photos OP posted appear to show undamaged batteries that did not vent. The problem appears to be something blew inside the driver, but fortunately the batteries were unaffected.

The cause is unknown. It is mostly likely poor quality control or a defective component on Sofirn’s part. But it could be a defective USB-C charging cable supplying too much current and blowing something on the board.

I’ve read able people having their laptops and cell phones destroyed when they tried using cheap generic USB-C cables that were miswired. I’m curious to know if if OP was using such a cable, if the cable was new, or if it was the original Sofirn cable that came with the light.

From the sofirn mfg ebay listing I purchased for mom:

sofirn sp36s on ebay

Look at the third listing image. Both the NarsilM and Anduril versions show 5V2A charging but the S version shows 5V2A,9V2A,12V2A so apparently the charging circuit was changed for the S version.

Okay I looked up the cable. It’s an anker cable which is very well reviewed on Amazon. It’s a cable I have owned for 2 years and the cable still works just fine. It has charged multiple cell phones and three other flashlights several times with no problem. It even charged this light five times and the bfl version even more times than that. I really don’t think it’s the cable.

The cells are in parallel, not series. But even when charging cells in parallel, it is important to use similar cells. Because, like you said, the charger sees the cells as a group. However, from what I’ve read, the Sofirn cells have historically been pretty decent cells, not low quality.

I’m glad you posted this, though, because I actually just ordered a SP36S last week. I’ll do some poking and prodding with the DMM with some of my USB-C cords and power supplies when it shows up.

It’s really not that surprising. 12v 2amp is 24 watt. Heck, most household light bulbs are only 6 watt these days. That’s plenty of power to fail spectacularly.

You’re not working around the stuff 8 hours a day. You were exposed for what… a minute? You’ll live. Nasty crap smells bad, and while it’s not good for you, everything is about dose. A small amount won’t hurt you. If you got a blast of a lithium-ion fire, that would be worse, but your batteries were fine.

The smell will clear in a few days. If you stick your nose up to the area, you’ll probably smell it for months or years. Some of that is real, some of it is just your imagination exaggerating things. Just keep your nose out of it, and you’ll probably never notice it.

Send the light back to Amazon and get a refund. Sure, it would be cool to tell Sofirn about it, but 99% chance is they won’t do anything about it other than replace your light.

Bottom line is that any high-power electronics can fail in bad ways.

Actually, it’s really not that important. Terminal voltage will be exactly the same across all cells. Higher capacity cells with higher internal resistance will self-limit as that resistance acts as a ballast. It’s like having 3 water-tanks — 1pt, 1qt, 1gal — with hoses joining all them at the bottom. They’ll all fill at their own rate, and the level in each tank will be exactly the same.

The reverse happens when discharging. Voltage will sag in lower-drain cells so they won’t discharge as fast as higher-drain cells.

That said, and to keep from having to write a separate reply, most charging circuits pretty much use the same chipset, so there’s no real “better” or “worse” design. Same with usb chipsets (eg, voltage negotiation for usb-c).

Hell, whether it’s wifi, bluetooth, whatever, there are typically just a few chipsets to pick from. Almost no one rolls his own, as it’d just be reinventing the wheel.

Oh yeh, the version with the ’351s is the old/good one, right? :laughing:

I agree. It doesn’t sound like it’s the cable. If it was, you’d know the first time you tried to use it.

Definitely sounds like a defective light. Something went kablooie on the driver. Your options:

  • Return the light to Amazon for refund.
  • Contact Sofirn to let them know about the problem and to ask for repair or replacement. This might also enable Sofirn to figure out exactly what happened so they can fix it and others don’t experience the same thing.
  • You could ask Sofirn for damages. I doubt they’d pay anything for just having a headache without any further medical diagnosis. But if you spend thousands of dollars on a cleaning service, you could potentially ask for reimbursement.
  • If Sofirn fails to pay for damages you could try suing them. This might not be worth it if their office is not located near you. Trying to sue in another country could be a pain. Probably not worth the effort for minor damages such as caused by this. Before any litigation, it is a good idea to contact Sofirn to see how willing they are to work with you and make you whole.
  • You could try sending the light to someone on this forum for dissection and analysis. I’d recommend securing a replacement or refund before doing that though.

Sofirn, like most Chinese manufacturers, is in shenzhen, chia

So is fenix and acebeam, etc …

If you are that concerned about it, you should consider making an appointment with a pulmonologist and/or an ear/nose/throat specialist.

Yeah and there is also a Ruth’s Chris and an Arby’s in my town doesn’t make them equal quality. One way or another sofirn is doing things for 1/4 the price. After owning two of the lights it’s clear to me how they are doing it. Cutting corners.

I appreciate all of the advice here. I suppose I will just send this back to Amazon and hope the smell goes away. Hopefully this doesn’t happen to anyone else. I would have gladly paid three times as much for the light if it was better quality. I’m not really sure if I should worry about contamination with burnt circuit board fumes on everything or not. It made me pretty sick yesterday, but I did inhale quite a bit of it. I’m hoping that it will have no effect unless it’s inhaled in big quantities at the same time.

In simply telling you that almost all flashlights are made in china these days specifically shenzhen

Fenix, acebeam, sofirn, klarus, olight, convoy, nitecore, etc …

They probably all come from not to many factories either

I was hoping to see some pictures. This thread is already on its 4th page…

A Fenix that I bought 10 years ago had a perfect finish, came with very nice packaging, very nice instructions and has worked flawlessly for a decade. The sofirn showed up in a weird generic box. I could probably find a dozen imperfections in the anodizing. The machining was sharp. It worked for less than 2 weeks. Many things are made in China for political and cultural reasons that are beyond the scope of a forum post I want to write. My girlfriend is actually from China, and I’ve been there a handful of times. Most of the manufacturing is done in this particular region. It’s not just limited to flashlights. Great quality and terrible quality things come out of this region of the world. Unfortunately sofirn seems to be the ladder.

I posted 11 pictures there is a link to the gallery