Credit Card Discussion

So for those interested in airline miles which is a far better deal than other cashback cards, the general rule is usually something like this:

1. Chase is the most strict for personal cards, so most people start with them. They only limit applying if you’re under 5 cc applications in the last 24 months. Note that business cards, however, don’t count towards this.

2. After that you have to decide if you want to focus on international flights, or if you want to try to get the southwest companion pass for lots of cheap/free domestic flights.

A good order of applying for cards might look something like this:

If you’re willing to do business cards - you can treat a small side biz as a sole proprietorship:

1. Chase ink preferred business
2. Chase southwest business + a chase southwest personal (to get the companion pass)
3. Chase united business or any other business card like Amex since they don’t count towards 5/24
4. Chase sapphire preferred (or reserve)… can only do this every 4 years, check offer
5. Other chase airline cards like United MileagePlus Personal
6+ All other personal or business cards like Amex personal, Amex business, Citi AA, Citi business, etc

If you’d like a referral for chase ink preferred let me know to get started let me know - that one is a nice 80,000 points

Good point! I really wish the AMEX Gold card you can get when you get the Platinum had the same rewards as a regular Gold card.

What card line up are you using?

I’ve stuck with a BOA VISA since most of my other accounts are there and paying it off is dirt simple.

I’ve started flying every other month or so, so I got a Delta Gold Amex. Flying from Atlanta and almost exclusively on Delta, the free checked bag and priority boarding is a nice perk. My first year is up in November, and I’m looking to see up upgrading to a Delta Platinum or Reserve would get me any real benefits after considering the fee increases. Will they give you the standard bonuses if you’re moving up their food chain?

Amishbill - I’m not sure about the Delta Amex, but all the cards I’ve been looking at only give you the bonus when you sign up for a new account/card. Unless they specifically send you an invite to upgrade with a bonus, which seems to be pretty rare.

I don’t really travel so any kind of airline point schemes don’t help me. I have a checking, savings, and credit card account with a local bank here. Only 4 branches in the entire county. Regardless of where I get debit or credit cards, I like the option to turn off and on my cards on demand. All the cards stay turned off until I use them. I just open the app, turn one on, use it, turn it back off. I even get alerts when my card is tying to be used even when it’s turned off. Of course the purchase would never go through but it’s nice to know if someone is trying to use it so I can quickly order a new card. Never had to, so that is nice not to have to deal with that problem. I’ve heard horror stories of friends going through hell trying to get their money and their identity straightened out.

Since I have checking and savings with the same bank as my credit card and also a car loan. I don’t pay any annual fees or other charges of any sort. Straight 9.5% if I carry a balance but I rarely do. I don’t make it a habit to spend money I don’t have. So if it’s not in the bank or otherwise spoken for, I don’t buy anything.

This all coming from a guy that up until about 9 years ago still kept cash in the safe at home. Now I can’t remember the last time I saw a $100 bill. Well I am married so I highly doubt I would ever see one again anyway. :slight_smile:

I'm researching credit cards... finally!

I'm looking for a low fixed APR and no annual fee with a "Price Rewind" feature.

I don't care about any other benefits, though they might be a nice touch.

The best website I have found so far is this one:

https://data.consumerfinance.gov/Government/Survey-of-Credit-Card-Plans/gme7-gkkr/data

It requires some work to get the site to give you the info you are after, but it has info on a lot of different credit cards.

Some Citi cards offer price protection. Chase use to but recently stopped. One nice Chase benefit is doubling of warranties. I use mine for electronic purchases like TVs and such. TD Bank is a good one to link to PayPal since it has no foreign transaction fees.

My Citi card used to, but also recently stopped.

Because it's a MasterCard, I can supposedly do up to 4 Price Protection claims per 12 months, but I just called them and they will not be open until Monday.

Annual fee = Deal breaker! No way I pay to use their card.

Low APR only applies if you carry a balance.

If you plan to carry a balance, you should look at other borrowing options.

Citibank ended the “Price Rewind” program for all cards on September 22, 2019.

https://www.citipricerewind.com/

Too bad as I saved hundreds and hundreds of dollars buying a bunch of electronics in the last couple years.

I did a Google search for credit cards that offer price protection, and I'm giving up on that feature.

I'll just consider a low fixed APR with no annual fee.

I can find some under 10%.

They have no perks, but I'm okay with that.

EDIT:

I applied for a credit card here:

https://www.pointwestcu.com/personal/credit-cards/

The CC competition is apparently fierce right know if your credit score is good. I am constantly getting offers to open accounts and receive $150 or $200 statement credit. Hard to pass on free money. These are 0 annual fee reward cards. Then they bombard you with special rewards. Right know, Shop Your Way Mastercard ( previously Sears) is offering 20% back between Oct. 1st-Dec.31st on groceries and gas. Put all your grocery and gas purchases on the card and pay it off every month. Free money. I’m still waiting for the pre recession 0 transaction fee, 0 % interest loans to come back. I took one of them out, deposited the money in a 5% Orange Savings account for 3 years, then paid back the loan at the end of 0% 3 year period. Free money.

I just got off the phone with MasterCard.

It was quite an ordeal, as I could not understand the woman on the phone very well, and she could not understand me very well, and I couldn't talk to anyone else.

My credit card does not have Price Protection.

I think I'll be much happier once I have a new credit card from somewhere else.

While we are on the subject of CCs, has the Equifax breach affected anyone concerning cards being hacked? Mine are being hacked regularly. Just wondering if it is just mine.

I’ve had it happen a couple times. Actually got a Macy’s credit card in the mail which I had no knowledge of. I did my research and found out you can indefinitely freeze all 3 of your credit reports for free. Locked mine as well as my wife’s credit reports down. Any time I want to apply for a new card, I unlock 1 of my reports 24 hours before and refreeze it immediately after.

Haven’t had an issue since.

I should do the same thing but then all the offers would stop, right? Is it free to unlock/lock for 24 hours?

Freezing will stop new accounts from being opened. The trouble I’m having is that my existing accounts are being hacked one by one. Thank you Equifax.

I didn't get that credit card, so I applied for one here:

https://www.ghpfcu.org/visa-credit-cards

Yea I think the offers stop coming when you have your credit frozen. Although all of my banks are still able to update my score every month.

With the massive Equifax breach last year, I will NEVER have unfrozen credit unless I’m ready to apply for a line of credit somewhere. It is 100% free and backed by laws requiring the credit companies to not allow any new lines of credit. Why anyone would pay for services like LifeLock is beyond me.

If any of your 3 credit scores are unfrozen, check out which credit card companies are offering you bonuses for signing up. https://www.creditcards.com/cardmatch/

I like Chase personally as they let you build up debt and then pay it off for you with no strings attached!

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/chase-cancelling-its-canadian-customers-credit-card-debt-n1041036

You don’t have to spend the rebate at Costco, you can get cash at a register or at the service desk for high amounts.

This is debatable. The most valuable part of airline credit cards is the signup bonus. After the signup bonus you can’t get much value from the points received for regular spending. For most people, especially those who don’t travel first/business class, a straight up 2% cash back credit card would work better than any airline card. Airlines have an established history of regularly devaluing points, so collecting points is also a fool’s errand.

That’s 20% back in SYWR points, right? It’s not a true 20% back due to limited redemption options.