I would support 21700….. because it means I can use 18650 protected cells! For those of us who only use protected cells, many 18650 lights are not useable….. FW3…. EDC18…..etc but 21700 lights can all take a 69mm keeppower!
Would it be feasible to make it accept 2 CR123s in an emergency? It’d be nice to have a fall-back to those if one is out camping and the rechargeable battery dies. I already take a couple CR123s in a waterproof case for some other lights I have (that are currently running rechargeables) for “just in case”.
Also, I’d vote for more than just 1 LED (2-4?) in order to drive them at lower currents for more lumens. A few extra dollars up front for something that can run longer and cooler at a given brightness (vs a single LED) would be good. Either way, I’m excited to see this project.
Edited to add: I was thinking 21700 or 26650 size instead of 18650 which is why I thought of more than 1 LED.
I would support 21700….. because it means I can use 18650 protected cells! For those of us who only use protected cells, many 18650 lights are not useable….. FW3…. EDC18…..etc but 21700 lights can all take a 69mm keeppower!
21700 is the goal with the ability to use 18650’s with a sleeve. as a lantern, it will pull less amps than a high-powered flashlight with a turbo that only runs for a minute or less, as lanterns run continuously for hours on end, meaning it will likely have a low-volt protection like the full size LT1, and being a low-amp draw it can run nearly any type of 18650 from old weak laptop pulls up to a 5000 mAh 21700.
The thoughts of having the tube made just large enough diameter to handle a 3-AAA carrier has been thought about, in that case which would add that extra battery versatility of even fitting a basic 3-AAA series carrier in it for that additional option in emergencies to use alkaline or Eneloops. (but not to charge them)
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That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
That’s a good idea DBSAR, a 3xAAA carrier would be a good backup.
I discovered if the inside of the battery tube of the Fireflies PL47 21700 light was just barely half a mm larger, a 3-AAA plastic carrier from any cheap 3-AAA flashlight fits it and works with additional longer springs.
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That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
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The thoughts of having the tube made just large enough diameter to handle a 3-AAA carrier has been thought about, in that case which would add that extra battery versatility of even fitting a basic 3-AAA series carrier in it for that additional option in emergencies to use alkaline or Eneloops. (but not to charge them)
I like this idea, but I also dislike it. Flexibility is always a good thing, but what would be the result of someone having this carrier installed and accidentally / ignorantly plugging up the charge cable? Cooked NiMH or popped alkalines?
I like this idea, but I also dislike it. Flexibility is always a good thing, but what would be the result of someone having this carrier installed and accidentally / ignorantly plugging up the charge cable? Cooked NiMH or popped alkalines?
I’m sure it would be possible to design a mechanism that would prevent that, but it would complicate things.
…. a keyway, a switch that is activated when the 3xaa carrier is inserted……. everything and anything is possible. Is it worth the effort?
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The thoughts of having the tube made just large enough diameter to handle a 3-AAA carrier has been thought about, in that case which would add that extra battery versatility of even fitting a basic 3-AAA series carrier in it for that additional option in emergencies to use alkaline or Eneloops. (but not to charge them)
I like this idea, but I also dislike it. Flexibility is always a good thing, but what would be the result of someone having this carrier installed and accidentally / ignorantly plugging up the charge cable? Cooked NiMH or popped alkalines?
indeed that is a concern.
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That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
I like this idea, but I also dislike it. Flexibility is always a good thing, but what would be the result of someone having this carrier installed and accidentally / ignorantly plugging up the charge cable? Cooked NiMH or popped alkalines?
I’m sure it would be possible to design a mechanism that would prevent that, but it would complicate things.
…. a keyway, a switch that is activated when the 3xaa carrier is inserted……. everything and anything is possible. Is it worth the effort?
good points. Something to disable charging with a 3-AAA carrier in it.
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That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
Would it be possible to add red LED’s operated as a separate mode in Anduril? Perfect for keeping bugs away when camping or fishing. Perhaps deep red XP-E? They are relatively cheap.
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That would work, you could do a similar circuit to the yellow work lamps that take 18650 and AA, they have a series of diodes to prevent charging of the AA.
Would it be possible to add red LED’s operated as a separate mode in Anduril? Perfect for keeping bugs away when camping or fishing. Perhaps deep red XP-E? They are relatively cheap.
it is possible, depending on if it will drive up the cost of the lantern or not.
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That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
I would support 21700….. because it means I can use 18650 protected cells! For those of us who only use protected cells, many 18650 lights are not useable….. FW3…. EDC18…..etc but 21700 lights can all take a 69mm keeppower!
21700 is the goal with the ability to use 18650’s with a sleeve. as a lantern, it will pull less amps than a high-powered flashlight with a turbo that only runs for a minute or less, as lanterns run continuously for hours on end, meaning it will likely have a low-volt protection like the full size LT1, and being a low-amp draw it can run nearly any type of 18650 from old weak laptop pulls up to a 5000 mAh 21700.
The thoughts of having the tube made just large enough diameter to handle a 3-AAA carrier has been thought about, in that case which would add that extra battery versatility of even fitting a basic 3-AAA series carrier in it for that additional option in emergencies to use alkaline or Eneloops. (but not to charge them)
Very Cool! I love battery versatility! Like the ZL SC80 and the CountyComm Single C and D lights that have AA and AAA carriers.
Also thinking plastic should be considered due weight considerations, and also cost. Assuming reasonable durability, but the lighter it is the less force acting on it to cause damage.[/quote
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I think going composite (plastic or something else) is the way to go. The cost of mold-making might make the project unprofitable however. I would think 5000 units or more would have to be sold to break out on it. Personally, I would not carry a metal flashlight on a backpack venture. As Colin Fletcher once said, “Take care of the ounces and the pounds will take care of themselves.” I cut toothbrushes in half and stuff like that. Nothing metal in or on my pack is how I go, if possible. I’m keen on the aaa batteries as a power option, or aa would be fine too. I can’t imagine carrying power bricks in a backpack.
As I mentioned earlier, I’ll buy anything with the BLF monicker because I like the looks and function of everything I’ve seen. If the mini lantern is too heavy for me, then I’ll surely find a use for it elsewhere. So carry on dbsar, I’m sure it will be cool. Check me for one at least.
I know, its just the quality of most lights of that style on the market need some major modifications or don’t work well at all.
That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
I would support 21700….. because it means I can use 18650 protected cells! For those of us who only use protected cells, many 18650 lights are not useable….. FW3…. EDC18…..etc but 21700 lights can all take a 69mm keeppower!
Would it be feasible to make it accept 2 CR123s in an emergency? It’d be nice to have a fall-back to those if one is out camping and the rechargeable battery dies. I already take a couple CR123s in a waterproof case for some other lights I have (that are currently running rechargeables) for “just in case”.
Also, I’d vote for more than just 1 LED (2-4?) in order to drive them at lower currents for more lumens. A few extra dollars up front for something that can run longer and cooler at a given brightness (vs a single LED) would be good. Either way, I’m excited to see this project.
Edited to add: I was thinking 21700 or 26650 size instead of 18650 which is why I thought of more than 1 LED.
21700 is the goal with the ability to use 18650’s with a sleeve. as a lantern, it will pull less amps than a high-powered flashlight with a turbo that only runs for a minute or less, as lanterns run continuously for hours on end, meaning it will likely have a low-volt protection like the full size LT1, and being a low-amp draw it can run nearly any type of 18650 from old weak laptop pulls up to a 5000 mAh 21700.
The thoughts of having the tube made just large enough diameter to handle a 3-AAA carrier has been thought about, in that case which would add that extra battery versatility of even fitting a basic 3-AAA series carrier in it for that additional option in emergencies to use alkaline or Eneloops. (but not to charge them)
That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
That’s a good idea DBSAR, a 3xAAA carrier would be a good backup.
I discovered if the inside of the battery tube of the Fireflies PL47 21700 light was just barely half a mm larger, a 3-AAA plastic carrier from any cheap 3-AAA flashlight fits it and works with additional longer springs.
That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
I like this idea, but I also dislike it. Flexibility is always a good thing, but what would be the result of someone having this carrier installed and accidentally / ignorantly plugging up the charge cable? Cooked NiMH or popped alkalines?
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I’m sure it would be possible to design a mechanism that would prevent that, but it would complicate things.
…. a keyway, a switch that is activated when the 3xaa carrier is inserted……. everything and anything is possible. Is it worth the effort?
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indeed that is a concern.
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good points. Something to disable charging with a 3-AAA carrier in it.
That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
Those carriers have a pogo-stick nipple to make contact, no?
Make a small center contact for power, and a concentric ring around it for charging. Should make contact with flat-tops, but not with the carrier.
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good idea
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Put me on the list for three. (When the list is started)
Would it be possible to add red LED’s operated as a separate mode in Anduril? Perfect for keeping bugs away when camping or fishing. Perhaps deep red XP-E? They are relatively cheap.
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That would work, you could do a similar circuit to the yellow work lamps that take 18650 and AA, they have a series of diodes to prevent charging of the AA.
Big Clive has done a tear down and circuit
That way the LT micro could be a power bank too.
https://youtu.be/NAoISQaA5jY
it is possible, depending on if it will drive up the cost of the lantern or not.
That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
Very Cool! I love battery versatility! Like the ZL SC80 and the CountyComm Single C and D lights that have AA and AAA carriers.
I’ll take 2 please!
Interesting. Count me in for at least one.
Also thinking plastic should be considered due weight considerations, and also cost. Assuming reasonable durability, but the lighter it is the less force acting on it to cause damage.[/quote
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I think going composite (plastic or something else) is the way to go. The cost of mold-making might make the project unprofitable however. I would think 5000 units or more would have to be sold to break out on it. Personally, I would not carry a metal flashlight on a backpack venture. As Colin Fletcher once said, “Take care of the ounces and the pounds will take care of themselves.” I cut toothbrushes in half and stuff like that. Nothing metal in or on my pack is how I go, if possible. I’m keen on the aaa batteries as a power option, or aa would be fine too. I can’t imagine carrying power bricks in a backpack.
As I mentioned earlier, I’ll buy anything with the BLF monicker because I like the looks and function of everything I’ve seen. If the mini lantern is too heavy for me, then I’ll surely find a use for it elsewhere. So carry on dbsar, I’m sure it will be cool. Check me for one at least.
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Interested.
I just received this and like it a lot .
Something similar without the flashlight might be a winner !
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If it’s anything remotely close to djozz’s lantern mod from the first page I’m in for two.
I am looking to find a good host to build a prototype to start from for a mini-LT1 ( or Micro-LT1) design.
That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight
So will you be doing a Micro and a Mini
Just had to say that before anyone else.
definitely will be, either a mini or micro, or both.
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Count me in for 1 pc.
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