What is happening with China Post ?

I have about 15 orders that were shipped with China Post Registered Airmail and 7 of them appear to be returned back to the sellers.
And these are different products from different sellers on Aliexpress.
The tracking initially shows that package left from some town like Hangzhou, then it arrives in Beijing after like 1 month, then after ā€œCustoms Releaseā€ is going back to Hangzhou.
Usually the tracking is seller > Beijing > ship by Air > me

X-Mas.
Probably overloaded.

Have you any idea the amount of tiny packages they handle.

I donā€™t think itā€™s that. They donā€™t update the tracking at all.
I have a few with no more updates from the 30th.
And now 2 more orders are being sent back, so 9 total. wtfā€¦.

Perhaps they did not use lithium battery warning labels ?

No, they are not supposed to have batteries.
These are just simple every day items, like some pots, screws, coins ā€¦.
I asked some friends that order on Ali and itā€™s happening to them too.
I think thereā€™s something going on with China Post. Perhaps itā€™s being affected by the HK riots ?
Maybe they are trying to ask for help through these packages and China Post is blocking all of them for inspection

All my china post items have gotten through so far

11.11 and black friday orders

Its only the order from a particular brand that hasnt come for reasons BLF will no longer let me disclose :wink:

I suspect itā€™s that the sellers are fudging the contents to evade tarriffs and finally getting caught. I say that as I recently had stuff returned and Banggood notified me saying that if I wanted to pay the tarriff they would reship it and it would go through. However, Iā€™m in the USA and you are in Europe, so perhaps we have differing issues.

Yeah, I ordered my shorty tubes on 11-26, they were on the move a coupla days after, but then it was ā€œProcessed through facility, Guangzhou EMSā€ on 12-02, and itā€™s been languishing untouched since then (15 days as of now, ie, over 2wks).

Lightbringer, Iā€™m in the same boat with my shorty tubes. I was wondering if I should create a post because of the bizarre shipping sequence. Exported, Delivery, Security Returnā€¦ and repeat.

  • Guangzhou, leaving Guangzhou International, the next stop , Guangzhou Exchange Station (via transfer)
    2019-12-17 16:50
  • Guangzhou, Guangzhou International has been exported directly sealed
    2019-12-17 16:32
  • Guangzhou City, ā€œGuangzhou Internationalā€ return, note: security return
    2019-12-17 09:33
  • Guangzhou, delivered to air transport
    2019-12-16 14:22
  • Guangzhou City, ā€œGuangzhou Internationalā€ return, note: security return
    2019-12-15 14:39
  • Guangzhou, Guangzhou Exchange Station returned
    2019-12-15 10:41
  • Guangzhou, delivered to air transport
    2019-12-15 04:15
  • Guangzhou, Guangzhou International has been exported directly sealed
    2019-12-15 04:12
  • Guangzhou City, ā€œGuangzhou Internationalā€ return, note: security return
    2019-12-12 10:01
  • Guangzhou, delivered to air transport
    2019-12-11 14:30
  • Guangzhou, Guangzhou International has been exported directly sealed
    2019-12-11 02:10
  • Guangzhou, arriving at Guangzhou International (via transfer)
    2019-12-11 01:01
  • Foshan City, leaving the South China Sea Mail Processing Center, the next stop , Guangzhou International
    2019-12-10 22:59
  • Foshan City, leaving the ā€œFoshan City, South China Sea Dale International Business Departmentā€, the next stop , ā€œSouth China Sea Mail Processing Centerā€
    2019-12-10 22:02
  • Foshan City, Foshan City, South China Sea Dale International Business Department has received, agent: Zhu Huanyu, Tel: 1301111111111

Odd, threw it at 17track, and mineā€™s just

2019-12-02 03:08

CHINA, GUANGZHOU EMS, Processed Through Facility -> Your item has been processed through a facility in GUANGZHOU EMS, CHINA at 3:08 am on December 2, 2019.

2019-11-29 22:25

Origin Post is Preparing Shipment

2019-11-29 22:25

CHINA, GUANGZHOU, Processed Through Facility

2019-11-29 21:51

CHINA, Acceptance

showing just as much as the usps site.

What about this?

2019-12-16 10:43, MONTEVIDEO CHANGE AIRPORT, URUGUAY, ARRIVAL FROM CONTAINER TO URUGUAY
2019-12-15 13:33, Beijing, Airlines
2019-11-27 15:40, Beijing, Airlines
2019-11-26 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-26 08:06, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-26 08:06, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-26 07:17, Beijing, leaving the Beijing Exchange Station, the next stop ,Beijing Exchange Station (via transfer)
2019-11-24 21:27, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-24 21:27, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-24 21:27, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-23 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-23 08:56, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-23 08:55, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-22 12:07, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-22 12:07, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-22 12:07, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-22 07:15, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-21 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-21 08:37, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-20 17:23, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-20 17:23, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-20 17:23, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-20 04:42, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-19 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-19 08:25, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-18 15:26, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-18 15:26, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-18 15:26, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-18 09:48, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-17 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-17 08:17, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-17 08:17, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-16 14:15, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-16 14:15, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-16 14:15, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-16 13:13, Beijing, arriving at Beijing Post International (via transfer)
2019-11-16 01:02, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-15 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-15 08:16, Guangzhou, arriving at Guangzhou Terminal (via transfer)
2019-11-15 07:32, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-15 07:32, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-14 09:00, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-14 09:00, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-14 09:00, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-13 08:29, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-12 12:42, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-12 12:42, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-12 12:42, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-11 02:04, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-10 06:44, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-10 06:44, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-09 01:55, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-09 01:55, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-08 14:28, Beijing, arriving at the International Mail Transfer Department (via transfer)
2019-11-07 17:04, Guangzhou, leaving Guangzhou Terminal, the next stop , Beijing Terminal (via transfer)
2019-11-06 11:23, Guangzhou City, ā€œGuangzhou Internationalā€ return, note: security return
2019-11-06 03:43, Guangzhou, arriving at Guangzhou International (via transfer)
2019-11-03 03:57, Foshan City, leaving the International Small Pack Processing Center, the next stop , Guangzhou International
2019-11-03 00:25, CHINA, HOME COUNTRY ADMISSION
2019-11-03 00:25, Foshan City, ā€œInternational Small Bag Processing Centerā€ has received, agent: agency administrator
2019-11-01 11:32, Logistics order created

Reaching for the popcorn ā€¦

I am trying to be hopeful for Christmas. Here is the USPS info. Years ago I had something like this and it was at my door before it ever updated. Hoping the same this time.

December 12, 2019, 3:42 pm
Processed Through Facility
GUANGZHOU, CHINA
Your item has been processed through a facility in GUANGZHOU, CHINA at 3:42 pm on December 12, 2019.

Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
December 12, 2019, 9:15 am
Processed Through Facility
GUANGZHOU, CHINA
December 10, 2019, 9:36 am
Acceptance
CHINA

And this?

2019-12-09 06:30, Hangzhou, leaving the Hangzhou Center, the next stop , Hangzhou International Mail
2019-12-08 18:43, Hangzhou, arrival in Hangzhou Center
2019-12-08 14:45, Shanghai, leaving the Shanghai Central Bureau Mail Processing Center, the next stop , Hangzhou Center (via transfer)
2019-12-08 02:57, Shanghai, arriving at the Shanghai Station Mail Processing Sub-Center (via transfer)
2019-12-07 07:50, Beijing, leaving Huangcun Station, the next stop , Shanghai Station Mail Processing Sub-Center (via transfer)
2019-12-03 13:29, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-12-01 15:37, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-30 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-30 06:35, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-30 06:35, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-29 10:07, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-29 10:07, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-29 00:50, Beijing, arriving at the International Mail Transfer Department (via transfer)
2019-11-27 22:12, Hangzhou, arrival in Hangzhou Center
2019-11-27 20:41, Hangzhou, leaving Hangzhou International Mail, next stop , Hangzhou Center
2019-11-26 23:25, Hangzhou, leaving the Hangzhou International Small Package Collection Center, the next stop , Hangzhou International
2019-11-26 20:41, CHINA, HOME COUNTRY ADMISSION
2019-11-26 20:41, Hangzhou City, ā€œHangzhou International Small Package Collection Centerā€ has received, pitcher: Sun Luzhu
2019-11-24 16:43, Logistics order created


On Friday I received a new tracking of the same orderā€¦

2019-12-18 04:48, Guangzhou, leaving Guangzhou International, the next stop , Guangzhou Terminal (via transfer)
2019-12-17 21:59, Guangzhou, arriving at Guangzhou International (via transfer)
2019-12-17 19:24, Dongguan City, leaving Dongguan International, the next stop , Guangzhou International
2019-12-16 17:38, Dongguan City, leaving the ā€œpackage express bulk business department back-office support classā€, the next stop ā€œDongguan Internationalā€
2019-12-16 17:32, CHINA, HOME COUNTRY ADMISSION
2019-12-16 17:32, Dongguan City, ā€œParcel Express bulk business department back-office support classā€ has received, agent: dg3
2019-12-13 19:51, Logistics order created

Isnā€™t tracking great?

Reasons that BLF allowed you to post and re-post ad nauseam until your fellow members couldnā€™t stand it anymore. Donā€™t even think about trying to turn this into a case of unfair treatment or protection of vendors. Your post history and interaction with other users makes the entire matter abundantly clear for all to see and analyze as they see fit. For the last time, drop the subject, including the thinly veiled references to your vendetta against BLF and the vendors that post here.

If you are going to ban someone for posting personal experiences with a particular company with shady shipping practices then go do it

In fact i have received a few PMs of support on the ā€œprotectionā€ of some of the brands and sellers on BLF, particularly those with business dealings wit BLF

This is what BLF has become, censoring of personal experiences of shady business practices to protect some brands

So go ahead and ban me, its not hard to have another account or two

Oh and i didnt even mention SOFIRN ( till now)

Heres a little parting gift ā€¦ the sofirn reviews are paid for from members here :wink:

Iā€™ll leave Bearbreederā€™s posts intact for the sake of transparency.

So, allegedly I (BLF) make secret deals to protect certain vendors and then somebody sends Bearbreeder a PM to inform him about these underhanded tricks. Just mull over that logic a little bit.

Not to protect the brands, but to protect the peace and the user experience here on BLF.

I invite anyone who is still concerned about these allegations to search BLF or browse through the long threads here discussing major issues and complaints with the very vendors that Bearbreeder was harping on. The very fact that you are able to do so on BLF is very revealing about the truth of the matter.

This will be my last comment on this matter. Please continue discussing the subject of this thread. Thanks!

Data had some pretty great lines on The Next Generation!