New flashlight eshop and the future of China business

Hallo.Right now i read few articles in our local news and iam a bit confused of it…As officials say-at least in our country-Slovakia-and no doubt also in other countries we as final customers will pay tax for each one order,sent from China…This means also very small packets…This should start sometime in 2021…If so,this will be disaster for us:) Till now we could order anything to 22 euros without any taxes on the border…No charges.Now they have to plan to change it…This can ruine all our shopping in chinese stores iam afraid…They said its just deffense against the chinese fake and cheap product invasion.As i know, Aliexpress already built a big store in Czech republic, Banggood opened their warehouse in Europe somewhere,they have plans to start production in Albania and in Africa…What do you think will be progress of the chinese business inc.eshopping? Will it be more problematic or not? Will it rise or fall? My solid chinese friend wanted also open a new eshop with solar panels,flashlights and accesories in Tianjin ,but iam not sure if this make sense anymore….What is the future of chinese business at least in eshop platforms in your opinion? How is it your country?Will we order all the chinese stuff in our countries in near future?

They’re doing it to protect against the exporting of fake products…yh no ones believing that.

Things like that may be preceeded by some political situation. I wouldn’t discard the option that due to good relation between China and other countries the present custom clearance procedures are not executed on retail level. In my case I’ve bought at least 500 items in common Chinese e-stores and happened to pay tax just twice. But when I buy in US I pay tax each time. It can’t be a coincidence. Tightening the custom payments seem to be easy to achieve, but not necessarily welcomed due to political agreements that we’re not aware of.

Australia introduced a law that even small foreign purchases should be subject to the domestic (Australian) goods and services tax. Now all of the larger Chinese e-sellers add on the tax. Ebay does it too for all foreign transactions (even in those cases where the transaction would have been exempt from the GST, such as secondhand goods from private sellers). I think what you are seeing is Chinese businesses complying with national policies in other countries.

Slovakia!
One day I will visit my homeland.
Grandfather lived outside Bratislava

really???waw thats unbelievable…and where if i may ask…

That’s why I haven’t ordered anything from AX in ages. First they started hitting me with tax, even though they’re clean across the planet, and now they’re socking people with separate PP fees on top of all that.

No thanks.

Btw, of all those “Chinese businesses complying with national policies in other countries” that are collecting all that extra cash, I wonder just how many are actually remitting those funds to the appropriate entities.

I’d say zero

I spent a decade working for a very large company. The USA made products I sent to China had the 35% VAT added onto the landed price / cost in China. The the Chinese made products I brought to the USA of course had ZERO taxes. Plus US engineers I had at about $135k/year burdened cost whereas my Chinese factories had $10k/yr burdened. Yup. Shocking how important-exports were and are unbalanced…. then we had a factory general manager who was walking about 15 % of the product out the back door and selling it on his own… when he got busted, he claimed it wasn’t bad because it was good for his family therefor totally fine. And Chinese law protected him!

These are true facts and can’t be made up.

Thought I’d share this insight. Yes it’s a decade old but my understanding is that attitudes haven’t changed much at all in the past decade even if wages have risen substantially.

All for now.

Yeah, they are likely pocketing an additional 7-9% profit on every transaction. Without a presence in the US, they can report any sales figure they want and remit a fraction of the taxes. I’m buying more from Bangood nowadays, but they also employ shady insurance and shipping fees that I have to disable every time I place an order.

Deal with the Devil man, you all know the rules.
When you get labor for .25 an hour or whatever it is you are not going to have honest people running the sweatshop.

So what if they skim off the top, like our companies don’t?
All businesses are a big effing charade with scum accountants, lawyers, bogus board of directors, etc.
Just puff up the stock baby!

The older I get, the more I realize life is just one big Wizard of Oz, never mind what is behind the curtain:)

Its global. All big countrys will tax Chinese products and its OK.

i also think its a deffense against them…but for us it means they will charge also our cheap packets from BG etc….

wait wait…AX is different than our usually used vendors like BG etc??

I thought it was more to do with the postal services not getting any financial support from the sending country. All countries are signed upto an agreement that they will deliver the other countries post for no charge. This used to be ok when it was just the odd letter or parcel, but with the massive influx of post/parcels from china the receiving country actually loses money. So in my opinion its their way of compensating for it.

Haven’t yet gotten charged tax or PP fees from BG, GB, or FT.

i was reading in finland they will introduce some post tax, because the post service here is getting busy with all the parcels coming from china (to me manly)

they was supposed to introduce it allready this year, but ive not recieved any bill for tax or post . ok ive only ordered bits and pieces from BG under 20 euro each time

but does it really effect us if we are spending less then 50euro per parcel

saying that my friend at work ordered a few phones from china. 48 euro one phone and about 100 euro for another phone and get taxed (import duty) on both phones i think the 100 euro phone was about 18euro to pay tax

so i dont really know what they charge and what on

i think phones and electronics are taxed and electronic parts come under a different section of tax

Hi, vresto. I have cousins in Zborov. And more cousins who have moved west to Prague. It’s a small world.

As things stand in the USA at the moment, I don’t believe that a small sales tax across the board would reduce US residents’ internet purchases from China more than perhaps 5–10. It would take a larger tax than that to bring total price up to the level of the big US e-tailers. That’s my gut feeling… no hard data or research.

Personally, I already avoid purchases with China shipping as much as possible, be they on ebay, Amazon, or a China-based web store. I just don’t like the relative uncertainty and long wait times involved with the long-distance shipping, and I also don’t get a warm feeling about their customer service ethic if I have a problem with the product or with shipping, so overall I’m willing to pay a bit more for most stuff if I can get it from a US e-tailer or at least a US-based warehouse.

Zborov? Really? Far from me, but the world is really small sometimes. We wanted open something western menthality eshop.i understand what you mean… This was the reason why.cust.service silence, unreasonable waiting times… Yes… Exactly.

https://www.idnes.cz/ekonomika/domaci/evropska-unie-cla-dph-zbozi-zasilka-e-shop-cina-gerlach-celni-sluzby-euro.A200213_130744_ekonomika_maz

its in my language,but sadly the message is-you will pay VAT tax and borderd tax for all chinese orders….since 2021…which will change the good old shoppings in chinese estores into much more expensive…and loooong waiting in the delivery proccess…so the chinese answer will be- moving their warehouses into Europe….now its official…at least here.