Lumintop FW21 Pro (10,000 lumen) vs Nightwatch NSX3 (9,900 lumen)

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ch1ir wrote:
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Ok I just tested my fully charged 40T against one of my Molicell P42a in my FW21 Pro (turbo of course).
My homemade lux meter box results (highest @ turn on using):
P42a: ~16,600 lux
40T: ~13,800 lux
(Note that these results are relative to me only)
I am not able to detect a visual difference in regular usage (dark room or outside), but the difference is measurable with a meter.

I’ve decided to reserve my Molicells for my FW21 Pro and use the 40Ts when I get my E07.


Thanks man! I grabbed a 30t and a 42a, I reckon I’m covered. Now to wait and see who arrives first!

This is a great choice. I usually carry bring 1 or 2 extra 30Ts on me depending on how long I expect to be walking and do a battery change midway through.

Before my 30Ts arrived, I had been using VTC6s and they became unreasonably hot when I used turbo in my NS53. The 30Ts look brighter and make the light heat up faster but the cells themselves don’t get as hot.

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raccoon city wrote:

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40T is the best battery if u want decent runtimes and plenty of amps to run this kind of lights.


In my research, I prefer the Molicel INR-21700-P42A, which is pretty similar to the 40T.


I haven’t bought any 21700 cells yet, however.

yes that cell works also, it depends what u can find in local stores or online, for absolute most power the molicell is hard to beat. but i prefer the 40t though.

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30T is actually the most powerful 21700, will measure brighter than the P42A but only down side is 3000mah. I use it for taking max measurements.

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andreas0401 wrote:

FYI resetting it back to Turbo is bad. You’ll end up like that guy on reddit that melted his LEDs.

Toykeeper mentioned that Andruil’s thermal management isn’t meant for tiny hotrods like the FW21pro.
It takes about 6-7 secs before it takes action from a temp reading, during which you can fry the LEDs.

Not to mention it gets hot enough to burn your hands…

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Rockenrooster wrote:
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FYI resetting it back to Turbo is bad. You’ll end up like that guy on reddit that melted his LEDs.

Toykeeper mentioned that Andruil’s thermal management isn’t meant for tiny hotrods like the FW21pro.
It takes about 6-7 secs before it takes action from a temp reading, during which you can fry the LEDs.

Not to mention it gets hot enough to burn your hands…


How about the NightwatchNSX3

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ch1ir wrote:
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FYI resetting it back to Turbo is bad. You’ll end up like that guy on reddit that melted his LEDs.

Toykeeper mentioned that Andruil’s thermal management isn’t meant for tiny hotrods like the FW21pro.
It takes about 6-7 secs before it takes action from a temp reading, during which you can fry the LEDs.

Not to mention it gets hot enough to burn your hands…


How about the NightwatchNSX3

Probably less so since it physically has more thermal mass.

You probably could still fry it since I think it also uses Anduril and same or older firmware.

These small hotrods aren’t meant for sustained Turbo of any kind, thermal stepdown is for the flashlights protection, Toykeeper just programmed it to be “easily defeatable”

I really do like that Nightwatch though…

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After the third turbo start, the FW21 Pro was so hot that I could hardly hold it in my hand.

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andreas0401 wrote:
After the third turbo start, the FW21 Pro was so hot that I could hardly hold it in my hand.

Lol! I feel that!
When I was messing with the thermal settings and found that resetting it back to Turbo makes even the MOST aggressive settings moot, I almost dropped it because it was so stinkin HOT!

It making the body so hot let me know that they did a good job with thermal transfer at least….just needs more mass and better/more cooling fins…

Be careful out there

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andreas0401 wrote:
After the third turbo start, the FW21 Pro was so hot that I could hardly hold it in my hand.

yes please dont do that ever again

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mizou51 wrote:
What a strange race we are facing in 2019/2020….the more lumens possible in a lowest possible time ?
It started with imalent flashlights 3 years ago…

i would like to see a small light that can sustain 3000lm for 10min.

I’m not sure if it can hold that for 10 minutes but I’ve had my Zebralight SC700D hold 3000lm for 5 minutes, (at least I never noticed any step down) however it was quite toasty!

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