thanks for the 4 model photo…
my cat also likes to investigate when I take pics… LOL
your 2012 shares the strobe capable driver with the newer models. (based on no RRT in the serial number itself). These do not fit protected 18350, the light wont close. (I use unprotected IMR 18350, with due diligence)
the short 2019 fits protected 18350, but has a cosmetic gap (does not affect water proofing)
the long 2019 fits protected 18350 with no cosmetic gap
the 2020 fits protected 18350 also with no cosmetic gap
Someone had to do it, and post at least... pardon my lack of ability to make consistent wb or format a post cleanly, but you'll get the idea.
219b sw45k 2020 rrt01 on the left
Vs 319c ~80cri 5000k triple in a convoy
Vs emisar d1 xpl-hi 4000k (forgot the rest of the numbers/ letters that go with that)
Initial impression, excellent of course! Went from unusable xpl hi 6500 something or another with horrible tint, but admittedly bright. I have harbor freight lights at work that feel ultra high cri compared to it, should've taken some documenting photos for posterity. Went from that neat unusable light to the top of the class. Anyone want to trade a stock jetbeam xpl-hi for emitter swap? Is there a thread for intentionally bad mods? trashy mods? Donated donor host/ drivers welcome :p. I'll try the yang with the ying. Wait, isn't that called a tactical light?
Last thoughts, would still like a more robust spill and softer boundary to spot. Without sacrificing output yada yada, that might be a pipe dream. Custom reflector? How to do?
Early on, during the extended Corona shipping time (actually, Neal got it to me pretty fast), i had really wanted the extenders for longer batts... but faced with reality, they make for funny proportions, and i dont have the button tops to use them with. Unless i poach out of those harbor freight lights from work... but that wouldn't result in desired run time lengthening, might go the other way actually.
Control ring on mine is dry and pretty loose action . Need to experiment with grease injection into that alleged grease hole before i go Jonathan on the ring assembly with my non wimpy thread lock breaking tools...i think i see some wispy grease traces through said hole. Lemme ask jetbeam snd i get to choose my answer!
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Do my pics show finally? I hear you other newbs. I might've learned me something (that was harder than the soldering and all that stuff). Image hosting whathuh?
I might've made all my inappropriate pics public tho in the process. "I gotta small gritty tool." "Here's one of my clicky...i think i like twisties." Etc etc... It's all too enticing for the imugr weirdos. These flashlight titles too titillating!
Someone told me how to lose the riffraff...it didn't take...haha... so far still entertaining and novel though. Someone said 2 minutes after i uploaded it that my tool was so small snd cute...5 seconds later another said "at least it's hard" (ya, because it's a tool ti! so obvious, duh! )
Right, gotta do something other than climb walls.
No rings im noticing, unless you counted way at the bezel edge, i suppose off the ss ring. And when i first assembled without the centering ring. That was like a tie dye shirt x bullseye …
Right, I dont count bezel artifacts. Here’s a 2019 RRT01 w/ 219B I modded. Ignore white balance it was set to auto and looks like it changed in the bottom picture.
Will check with you later after i photo the light by itself at night.
What is changed between the three shots?
Mine do look less ringy but we'll compare.
I think the marketing strategy in addition to lumens driven, is throw driven. They don't care about the quality of light (well, throw pwr does have its place) but the numbers that can be written down.
My smooth reflectors (3+) seem to share this effect. The "worst" being the throwy d1 with a cree. So add tint shift to that, which this has little to none.
Does the Nichia die lie deeper than the XP-L die? I have a non-perfect beam with the D25A (XP-L HD to 219B) and wonder what I can do. Same in a BLF A6 where thinning the gasket and finally slicing the LED didn’t work out (eventually I replaced the reflector by a honeycomb optics to save the light and now using it as fill light). TIR optics would be ok for the Eagtac also if I can find one, but it would be great to keep the OPR. Sorry for OT, but I hope it fits in this discussion.
It probably does sit too high on mine but the reflector has a lip on it so it sits on the body of the light so sanding the spacer may not be enough unless you raise pcb too.
I do not use the imgur app on my phone
If I use my phone, I dont have access to posting images, only to creating “posts” that the horny idiots go crazy commenting about
this way I dont get any comments from the peanut gallery, note the choice for Images instead of Post
and yes, it is more complicated than reflowing an LED… I take photo w phone, then email to my desktop, then load to imgur, then open in Preview and add text labels, then post to BLF… but photos still save me a TON of typing
imo the problem is not the height. I think the beam shadow is caused by the larger opening at the base of the reflector
but to be fair, until we see the XP-L beam in a photo I reserve judgement whether the 219b is worse, or the reflector sucks for both
here is a comparison of an xml and xpg reflector in a sunwayman V10r Ti and V10r Ti+
here is an example of a stock xm-l2 and xpg beam in the sunwaymen…
xml2 has the shadow in the spill, even in stock form… The xpg is much nicer… (both beams retain the traits after modding to 219b)
the mod to the 2012 RRT-01 involves swapping in a reflector with a smaller hole at the bottom, which imo is key to beam success with that model
some examples of beam quality after modding, left is better (small hole reflector), right is worse
note that the xml reflector beam is has a shadow ring in the spill in both stock and modded form. People who are not whitewall hunters would never notice.
So, if I do a mod to a reflector with a wide hole at the bottom, I dont beat myself up when the beam is no better than stock… it is still worth the High CRI upgrade, and for many applications I mainly use the hotspot, which is fine…
another view of large hole and small hole reflectors
I’ve seen worser artifacts in a beam than in the beam of my D25A, e.g. those of various Armyteks. Was never a problem since this was a property of the respective stock light. But when I modify a light and there’s something even barely wrong, it’s a drama. Maybe I’ll try a LH351D or a nice XP-L HD. The 219B always works in small lights like the Drop tools, and yes, the opening on those is very small. Just fits a Samsung. Very tight fit.
same here
I get really nitpicky once I start modding
its the same when I take my car to a mechanic… even if it only needs an oil change, when I get it back Im secretely hoping it has a new motor, more power, and better fuel economy too… LOL
Ive spent a fortune on oil changes, and my car keeps getting older… I still dont understand, so Im taking it in for another oil change soon
officially there is no LVP and no LVW, so you should use protected cells, or if you choose to use unprotected, do so responsibly, and check battery voltage periodically.
if you, or anyone else here, tests any model of RRT-01, please share what you learn
Im guessing they all flash at 2.5v, like my 2012 RRT-01 does:
I seek confirmation for your model
I recommend recharging LiIon cells before they drop below 3.2v, the LVW at 2.5v that I posted should not be relied upon as a recharging indicator…
Neal takes a while to respond sometimes but all the sudden you’ll get a tracking notice when it’s shipped. I got mine shipped june11 which was probably the first batch he got, the others prob went to vendors , i only got in because i had ordered a 2019 right before he listed as discontinued. Took a little over 2 weeks after shipping… quick for Corona standards…
Sit tight!
Found my stock xplhi beamshots before the 219b went in!
Btw my reylight cooper mini clicky 219b seems whiter than my sw45ks. Can someone tell me is this a thing or are my batch a warmer batch? I have a fireflies also is similar white rosy, so with 7 emitters, can't be a fluke?? Anyone know if those run cool? Were they cherry picked for that or maybe my small strip of sw45k run warm? Feedback? So, back to topic, the referred to reylight is pictured below on the right. 2020rrt01 w stock xplhi on left
Maybe i got lucky but i remember the beam being this un-ringy, hence the swap pretty good in that regard...
Stock 2020rrt01 vs swapped to sw40 fenix e20v2 shot indoors at workduring the day.
Here's a pic of the reflector, I'll take better pic when i get in there again to clean some stuff up. i would call it the big opening type with a snug fit up ring.
Here's two stand alone of my 2020 rrt01 after sw45k to compare with contractor's 2019s. (Both pretty low setting, maybe 30%.) When brighter, even less rings. There is a sweet spot i can dial in where i can see some rings from the centering ring to reflector boundary but they don't show up possibly because of my crude photographic method! Im trying! When i messed with white balance, things went south...
Contactor, were your 3 shots 3 different lights or different shots of the same light?
Im thinking the 2020 got new reflector/ other tidbits plus i got lucky.
PS. With this light, everything for swap was accessible from the bezel end... no coming up from underneath, is 2019 / earlier like that? Definitely no fitment issues on reassembly, except for needing to smush down my blobby solders. And pps. The centering ring such a tight fit, i had to remove reflow solder squeezeout for proper seating of the reflector assembly.
I wouldn’t bother with the 2019/20 reflector cause it gives perfect beam unlike 2012 even after upgrade.
What i did on one of my 2019 was that i’ve installed Yaijamei TIR instead. Beam vecame just a round hotspot without the spill. And in combination with swapped 351D 5000K instead of XPL-HI is awesome.
thanks for tip about that tir. my main complaint was that i didnt want a thrower or at least such a hot hot and weak spill. i also did not want to resort to dcfix or frosted lenses. but considered pebbled lens. i will likeley try that tir first, did it fit up well? have you looked at that fancy finnish reflector on darksucks site? wondered if that fit, but maybe its too similar to what we are already getting stock.
also, its a pretty mild AR if at all? did you add better AR lens?
