Zooming Model List (2018 Updated) Tell us about your newest zoomie!

I don’t think even advanced modders like to do this because difference is negligible. It should be tested… But what can be easier than above mentioned setup? You have retaining ring for driver, retaining ring for MCPCB, aluminum pill is 5x lighter than brass pill…

This is truly modders heaven (when we talk about single emitter, 17mm drivers/MCPCB lights). Done in 5 minutes :+1:

Convoy has zoomie light!

It is called Convoy Z1 zoomable flashlight

Looks really nice, 21700 sisze and good blacking out inside the head.
Could probably get 250kcd with an LED swap, or 500+ with a collar…

I’m waiting for someone with a Jaxman Z1 to compare the lens and pill. It seems like a good value though. Especially when you can get 375-400kcd with white flat 1mm2 Jaxman Z1 (no collar)

If you want to send me the Convoy Z1, well… :wink:
I’m joking, though I do have a spare CULNM1 to match my Jaxman Z1. I just Corona seem to find the funds for new lights right now…

FWIW though, the Jaxman measures 53mm at the head, and Simon claims a 52mm diameter on the Convoy. Not going to be much difference here. My Jaxman gets me 5500mAh with the 26650, and the Convoy should be good for 5000 with a 21700. shrug
Hopefully the lens is nice, and it will be a cheaper way to get that kind of quality in a zoomie for people.

Yeah, like Enderman said, White Flat should get you 350kcd+ without a collar. Although with the 6A driver stock, 2mm^2 may be the simpler swap. And Simon actually carries 3030 gaskets, would just need some Sharpie…

Simon follows, and Simon listens… I am sure he will make 4,5-5A driver with White flat 1mm (CSLNM1.TG)…

Flashlight looks nice, old school style but there is always but… I would really want/need freaking 25.4mm(1”) 1x18650 tube version of this light… :person_facepalming:

Freaking hell 26650 and 21700 bats… I just wish they disappear…

For a light with a head this large, I don’t mind the larger battery size. I don’t find anything using 21700/26650 to be comfortably “pocketable” though.

I don’t object to either battery form factor on any sort of principle, and I definitely see the value in 21700 since the EV market seems to be focusing some innovation on that battery size. The discharge rates on 40T and 30T are pretty impressive!

Amutorch E3 - 21700, triple LED TIR optic, 95 mm long, 25.4 mm batt tube width. Head is a bit wide - worse spot at 29 mm, but it's not a standard round shape. It's about as compact you can get for a 21700. Quadrupel layed out a FET+1 driver for it - I uploaded it in OSHPark here: https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/4p0UsWYK. I got 3 of these boards ordered, wait'n.

On BG here. Neals' site here.

If I ever have disposable income again, I really need to try a couple of Amutorch’s lights. In my eyes, they’ve really been trying to innovate, even if (last I checked anyway) they wouldn’t know a good UI if it bit them on the nose.

Larger form bat factor gives more juice… But why we should go in that direction?Larger bats and flashlights? We should strive to as smaller form/performance factor possible.
There will come day when we will have low current draw emitters(diodes) which will give give max performance at lets say 1A current draw with surface brightness cd/mm2 over 500…

That is already happening in 850 IR spectrum with technology called VCSEL laser (on Samsung INR 30 Q and linear 7135 driver I have around 3 hours of runtime with 1A draw, and more than 1 kilometer of IR throw with 20mm lens zoomie over night vision equipment).

And of course when that technology appears it will happen what I predicted years ago. Zoomie form lights will become no. 1 light. Cause we will have extreme thrower/flooder in right pocket of our T-shirt.

Agro original post here: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/41081/501

Ok, there's a lot goin in this post, but, I ordered the first listed "Pocketman" zoomie for under $8 at the time and it finally arrived today! Only took ~7 weeks, but for under $8. Overall look is ok. As expected, classic cheapy/cheezy 5 modes, nice blue tint, but it puts out a lot of light. Finish and optics is decent, but the tailcap - major issues. The threading doesn't match up well - the tailcap is bigger, gotta play with it to get a good lock down, but it's do-able. Bought it more for mod potential so the driver and LED would go. Fully zoomed out I get a nive cross pattern for the cheap/clone XHP50, so I think the focus is ok, and it's got a pretty wide flood mode which is good.

Price went up from $7.nn to $10.nn. I find that happens a lot after I order one. I think it's something that's a common practice - first few order are dirt cheap, and if it sells, then bump up the profit.

Does the Skywolfeye B16 take only AAA or also 10440 or NiMH?

It works with all these chemistries.

Thanks Agro! :slight_smile: That’s great news. Just returning the Led Lenser P3R due to ring artefacts in beam both zoomed in and out. Let’s hope the B16 does a better job at 1/20th of the price :stuck_out_tongue:

P.S. what 10440 do you use with it? Apparently button top (protected?) due to earlier uncertainty on whether it takes flat tops?

1) Lumintop Zoom1 doesn’t seem to be in the list on the first page yet? Uses XPL-HD, takes in 21700 or 18650 battery, with built-in USB charging port.

2) Nicron B22W doesn’t seem to be listed: it uses 2xAAA, although the zooming is quite small, and low lumens. I think the LED is LH351B.

3) Sofirn S11-B (uses XPL-HD LED?? need to be verified) and Sofirn S11 v2.0 (supposedly uses LH351D), uses 18650, built-in USB-C charging port, twist head to zoom, cylindrical shape body (including the head)

4) Convoy Z1 (SST40) doesn’t seem to be listed yet. I think it uses 21700 battery.

5) Wuben L60 appears to be the exact same flashlight as the Wuben LT35, same LED, similar UI (very slight difference in UI between the LT35 and L60: LT35 includes SOS in regular cycle, whereas on the L60, SOS mode is not part of regular cycle, but instead accessed via double-half-press. Otherwise, physically and performance appear to be exactly the same.

I’m looking into the Convoy Z1. My interest is as a semi-floody walking light with throw capability in one unit.

The only throw figures I can find are on Gearbest, which shows 150 metres. Does that sound right? My 18650 tube light has half the power and more throw.

It comes in 4 mode or 12 group versions. The 12 group (biscotti?) is advertised with thermal regulation. Is that new? I thought it was limited to the 4 mode only.

Also, does anyone know if it’s a push-pull or twist zoom?

I use PKCELL 10440, button top. IDK if flat top works but I think it should.

Unfortunately the first page hasn’t seen an update for a long while.

It looks like twist but I can’t tell for sure.

That throw figure sounds wrong. For the lens size and any decently-driven emitter, 150m should be easy. If that figure were correct, we’d be looking at the following: under-driven emitter (could be due to bad thermals), insufficient lens travel (doesn’t focus fully).

I’m really excited for someone to get one, though. It should throw like the Jaxman Z1 for half the price.