Who makes Vapcell batteries

According to Barkuti, Heter is the OEM of both the Vapcell H10 and the Shockli IMR14500 1050 mAh.

You’re not wrong to be wary of it these days. That sort of thing I think “guerrilla marketing” is the term for it? is very common.

Cool! Thanks for finding that.

And it goes back quite a ways…

See? Quite effective.

Very good batteries.

Yes, I posted a post on Samsung battery. I just saw this post and replied

Hi ,do U use vapcell 18650 3000mah 25A VTC6A rewarpped battery?
Thanks
Now Discontinued :weary:

We are looking forward to releasing a better 3000mAh 25A battery

Maybe next month :blush:

Who specifically makes the Vapcell 18350 currently offered?

Probably Yongdeli New Energy Co., Ltd. in Shenzhen.

I am partial to Japanese products when it comes to electronics. What reputation does this place have?

Their 18350’s seem to be one of the best available on the market. They might not be consistent. But they’re probably suitable for most 18350 flashlights that don’t have a >10A current drain.

Reviews by HKJ and Battery Mooch might help in deciding whether to try out a particular cell.

What do you mean by that? Is the construction shoddy or something that would lead to cell to cell variance or failure?

Orbtronic makes no claim of ownership of the cell, they tell you the cell is Panasonic and they provide the protection circuit. How can vapecell take a Samsung battery, put their purple vapcell wrapper on it and call it a vapecell? Sounds illegal no? Can I do the same thing, just rewrap batteries and put my name on it?

Toyota put their badge on cars built by BMW and Mazda. Does that make it illegal? No.

Does Orbtronic make their “18350”: 18350 battery 15A 1200mAh Flat Top Li-ion ORBTRONIC or is it a rewrap from some other company like YDL?

The specifications looks similar to a “KeepPower IMR18350 1200mAh”: https://www.keeppower.com.cn/products_detail.php?id=567 and a “Vapcell M11 18350”: https://www.vapcelltech.com/index.php/Show/index/cid/73/id/82.html

Is KeepPower even a battery manufacturer?

Looks like everyone re-wraps them and puts their name on it.

I think if you are going to outright copy something there should be disclosure. This is why authors use footnotes, to give credit to the original writer.

Selling products produced by others under a different name is a tried and true practice. For example Kenmore appliances, after-market car batteries (there are only 3 manufacturers in the US), etc.

And with respect to these batteries no doubt the original manufacturers are selling them to Vapcell with the understanding that they are going to be sold under the Vapcell name.

The question now is…are the Vapcell, Epoch, Keeppower, etc all the same battery, exactly? For example, FN is a company that makes rifle barrels. What happens, is the company who wants barrels, places an order, and their criteria determines the price. All the barrels are made of the same steel on the same machines…but bore straightness, roughness, chrome lining uniformity, etc. are spec’ed and tolerances given which affects reject rate and ultimately price…so you may buy a $275 FN barrel, or a $375 FN barrel, and while they are visibly the same to the eye, and a spectrometer will determine the steel is the same…they are NOT going to, as a whole, be the “same” barrel, even though a “good” cheap barrel MAY end up being better than a more expensive one that barely met spec. (This leads to “my such and such did better than my buddies such and such that cost $100 more…” type posts and tirades, and while true, this only represents a singular comparison event of extreme nature, not typical performance from either.)

So how is it with these batteries? Literally the same…or does each buyer get to set the bar? Now…if that is the case…who’s bar is set the highest?

well if you get samsung’s permission, then sure, you can wrap it in neon green, and say “zoulas” on it.