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From what I read 14C28N is more adapted for a kitchen knife and D2 is better for a outdoor knife. So yes 14C28N would be better for EDC. I think the only notable difference in use would be the rust spots on the D2.
Did you noticed they also started to use S35VN? https://www.srmknives.com/product/1161-tz/

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Yes. They also released a limited run of the Land 910 with M390.

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On knives for food prep I’d prefer 14C28N over D2, due to rust resistance and still a good edge.

On my GreenThorn work edc I’m quite happy with its D2 blade. It’s getting wickedly sharp and holds a good edge.
I get no rust spots because I sometimes rub it with mineral oil and use it every day but even if I had some spots on it I wouldn’t mind.
I’d maybe just polish the blade or stonewash it, really doesn’t matter.

Anyways, here’s my new SRM 9306. Very nice slim knife for $20. Do I like 8Cr13MoV?
Haven’t tried edge retention on this one so I can’t say but it’s a light duty folder so I don’t mind.

The thing is, I want to gift it to a friend who destroys every knife within some months anyways, the most important part will be the bottle opener I guess.
And the blade will have greenish-brown residue on a blunt tip on it but by then it won’t be my knife anymore, nothing to bother about Wink

Size comparison with the Boker Urban Trapper (01BO732)

I don’t know if it will be ever possible to open this knife comfortably with the thumb studs but oiling the tang and opening/closing it a few times helped already.
The closing torque point is a bit smoother than the opening one, so it’s a bit difficult to overcome the last few degrees while opening it onehandedly, with two hands it’s working very well, even without nail nicks, and it also hold the blade open with enough force.

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#Aliexpress US $20.12 32%OFF | AKC 440c Blade NGF Handle Folding Camping hunting Knife Outdoor Pocket Survival Tactical Utility knives EDC hand Tools
https://a.aliexpress.com/_dZ4yvD4

Anyone know what kind of opening this knife has?

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Just ordered one. Not expecting much for the price, but hopefully it’ll be fun to fidget with.

I received my knife in the mail today and am less than thrilled by it. The size is compact (which is fine), it’s a comfortable knife that fills the hand well, but the button is very firm to actuate and it doesn’t always open completely and lock. The spine section that locks onto the stud and notch in the back of the blade is very rough and gritty and the blade gets hung up. I’d pass if you are thinking of ordering one. I’ll see what I can do to slip some high grit (1000, 1500, 2000) under this area in an attempt to smooth it out. I did lubricate it but that didn’t change the action. Oh well. You take your chances… I don’t know what I’ll do about alerting Aliexpress. I don’t expect any real satisfaction from halfway around the world.

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That doesn’t sound good.. You should apply for a partial refund and taking pictures before trying to fix it.

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Good idea. I could take a short video of it not firing correctly.

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^^ What Isti said. Don’t fiddle with it, take picture, open dispute, usually you get a full refund or a second item (rarely).

They want 5 stars, they actually need them, a full refund is the way they usually go cos the whole batch will be same.

Good luck and keep us informed.

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Omega_17 wrote:
From what I read 14C28N is more adapted for a kitchen knife and D2 is better for a outdoor knife. So yes 14C28N would be better for EDC. I think the only notable difference in use would be the rust spots on the D2. Did you noticed they also started to use S35VN? https://www.srmknives.com/product/1161-tz/

Not really. Sandvik developed 14C28N at the request of Kershaw for use in pocket knives. It’s an improvement on their older 13C26. The main goal was to make it more resistant to corrosion. They succeeded. Smile

I prefer 14C28N to Chinese D2 any day of the week and for any task. The D2 can have better edge retention depending on the individual heat treatment. The problem is that it can be a gamble. The average edge retention for Chinese D2 is a slam dunk over 8Cr13Mov and lower-numbered steels in that series. However, that average isn’t enough better than 14C28N that I care. Given the big and reliable difference in corrosion resistance, 14C28N has the advantage for both EDC and outdoor activities.

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I’m also a big fan of 14C28N and prefer it to D2.

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From what I read 14C28N is more adapted for a kitchen knife and D2 is better for a outdoor knife. So yes 14C28N would be better for EDC. I think the only notable difference in use would be the rust spots on the D2. Did you noticed they also started to use S35VN? https://www.srmknives.com/product/1161-tz/

Not really. Sandvik developed 14C28N at the request of Kershaw for use in pocket knives. It’s an improvement on their older 13C26. The main goal was to make it more resistant to corrosion. They succeeded. Smile

I prefer 14C28N to Chinese D2 any day of the week and for any task. The D2 can have better edge retention depending on the individual heat treatment. The problem is that it can be a gamble. The average edge retention for Chinese D2 is a slam dunk over 8Cr13Mov and lower-numbered steels in that series. However, that average isn’t enough better than 14C28N that I care. Given the big and reliable difference in corrosion resistance, 14C28N has the advantage for both EDC and outdoor activities.

Well said!

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Beretta knives are now discounted: https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/store/knives/?utm_campaign=Knives&utm_m... but, they’re still expensive.

Here is a quote from the description of a Beretta knife with a $109 price tag:

“Upgraded the steel from AUS 6 to AUS 8”

Did I time-travel back to the year 2000? Good grief. Sick

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Modded TwoSun TS164.

Well you just had to go and show me that didn’t ya. I have been really good. Haven’t ordered a new knife in a while. Then you show up with that beautiful thing and now I got the itch again. It also didn’t help that I found this while looking for a TS164. Hadn’t seen that one before. I’m gonna get in a lot of trouble.

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Eafengrow EF04. My first Eafengrow, and not a good first impression.

The blade is way off to one side. The gold stripe pattern is poorly done at the base of the blade. In order to get the blade centered, the pivot screw has to be tightened to the point the pivot action is too stiff. Opening the knife is not good, and it won’t close unless you force it closed. I’m going to return it.

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Eafengrow EF04. My first Eafengrow, and not a good first impression.

The blade is way off to one side. The gold stripe pattern is poorly at the base of the blade. In order to get the blade centered, the pivot screw has to be tightened to the point the pivot action is too stiff. Opening the knife is not good, and it won’t close unless you force it closed. I’m going to return it.

If you like that design, the Ontario Rat might satisfy ya. Aus-8 or D2 in all kinds of handle/blade options. Aus-8 for about $25 or so, $40 for the D2. They are all over Amazon and Ebay. Might get them cheaper from overseas but then you get the long wait on shipping.

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Eafengrow EF04. My first Eafengrow, and not a good first impression.

The blade is way off to one side. The gold stripe pattern is poorly at the base of the blade. In order to get the blade centered, the pivot screw has to be tightened to the point the pivot action is too stiff. Opening the knife is not good, and it won’t close unless you force it closed. I’m going to return it.

If you like that design, the Ontario Rat might satisfy ya. Aus-8 or D2 in all kinds of handle/blade options. Aus-8 for about $25 or so, $40 for the D2. They are all over Amazon and Ebay. Might get them cheaper from overseas but then you get the long wait on shipping.

I do have a RAT 1 with AUS8 and I am impressed with how well made, and how wonderful it feels in hand. I didn’t get the good steel (D2), and it has FRN scales, but it is a great knife none-the-less. When I seen the Eafengrow EF04 I wanted to see how it would compare, but I have no love for the EF04. It is almost as bad as the junk Canku C06 knife I bought not to long ago, and immediately returned it.

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I do have a RAT 1 with AUS8 and I am impressed with how well made, and how wonderful it feels in hand. I didn’t get the good steel (D2), and it has FRN scales, but it is a great knife none-the-less. When I seen the Eafengrow EF04 I wanted to see how it would compare, but I have no love for the EF04. It is almost as bad as the junk Canku C06 knife I bought not to long ago, and immediately returned it.

I don’t have any Eafengrow or Canku knives but, I can certainly understand being disappointed in a knife I looked forward to getting. The Ruike P831 I got was horrible. Blade way off center, the frame locked pushed so hard against the blade it was impossible to close or open one handed. Worked on that knife forever trying to get it to work properly. I gave up and gave it away. He is a friend too. I should have never done that to a friend. Wink

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Just received my first Stedemon knife. The price on Amazon showed it was $22.29 for the orange one, but it came out to $19.39 with tax included at checkout. That was a nice surprise! Would make a good budget gift.

I like the knife. It is good for the price. A 3.3” 440C very sharp blade, and good quality plastic (FRN ?) scales. Feels good in hand, like a quality budget knife. Has a good strong lockup. The blade can be deployed by a quick shake of the knife. The detent is on the weaker side, that’s my only con on it.

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You can adjust the detent strength by slightly bending the lock-bar towards the blade after disassembling the knife.

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You can adjust the detent strength by slightly bending the lock-bar towards the blade after disassembling the knife.

Just be careful. There is elastic deformation, inelastic deformation, and straight up snapping. Some liner steels are more forgiving than others. You also want to apply pressure evenly so the lock bar continues to mate up properly with the blade.

I’ll only try this on inexpensive knives. If it’s an expensive knife, I’ll either return it or send it in for warranty work.

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When I have to bend a liner/framelock a bit for mor tension I use a wooden spatula.

The spatula lays flat on the inside of liner, the push it towards the cutout.

This way you can mark till where you had to push and see if needs a little more.

Always worked for me.

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I am hesitant to do any bending. I am not confident enough to do that.

I opened her up, instead, and adjusted the pivot screw. This knife is unique to me, in that the pivot screw in under the scale. I really enjoy fidgeting with the Stedemon, now.

This is the pivot screw. It lays hidden under the show side scale.

Nice ball bearings for the price point. Wiped it down, and used mineral oil for the re-lube.

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Hey guys, are there any budget knives with a compression lock like the Spyderco’s use?

Or button (compression) lock…

Thanks

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chooma wrote:
Hey guys, are there any budget knives with a compression lock like the Spyderco’s use?

Or button (compression) lock…

Thanks

The Boker Kalashnikov comes to mind. Trying to think of any others………………..

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Is the Kalashnikov available as a button lock knife without the spring installed?
I always pictured it as an automatic knife.

The only button lock knife I own is the RealSteel E776 Griffin, but I’ve seen some other ones around lately.
(I like the Griffin but the blade could be really ground thinner like -0.2mm – 0.3mm behind the cutting bevel.)

There’s also the Kizer Tangram Vector, some William Henry and Rockstead gentlemen’s jewlery, Spartan Blades Pallas…

The MTech MT1118BK is looking interesting, a button lock flipper with anodized AL handles but with 3Cr13MoV (!) blade.
Sounds like a tin can blade to me Sad

Google ‘CRKT Tighe button’ and you’ll get some more knives, the design doesn’t appeal to me,others like it.

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I think The Boker Kalashnikov’s are autos.

I’m liking the crkt and griffon. I’m not sure about the alu scales on the griffon, are they very slick?
And the style of the crkt is not really for me but that knife looks very figgitery and that’s what interests me the most.
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Sorry I was getting the Boker and the Gerber mixed up. I forget the name of the Gerber. Had another not so budget one if I can remember the manufacturer. Well aren’t I full of useful info. Big Smile

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toddcshoe wrote:
Sorry I was getting the Boker and the Gerber mixed up. I forget the name of the Gerber. Had another not so budget one if I can remember the manufacturer. Well aren’t I full of useful info. Big Smile

Hey, all you were trying to do is help, and I appreciate that. Have a nice weekend.
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Ruike P843-W
I like everything about it. With the dye job, it has a rustic appearance now.

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chooma wrote:

Hey guys, are there any budget knives with a compression lock like the Spyderco’s use?

Or button (compression) lock…

Thanks

Don't some Navy knives have a compression lock?

I don't know how budget they are now, though.

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You can convert all automatic knifes with a button into a button lock by removing the spring inside. My only automatic Ganzo is now one because the spring broke. But why not using an axis lock? I find it superior while kind of similar.

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