How important is moon-mode to BLFers?

Moon mode for me is a totally useless level for my 68 year old eyes so I’d have to say it’s not important at all :partying_face:

Voted nice to have. This seems to be a dealbreaker for most flashaholics. I feel visible PWM is more of a dealbreaker for myself.

For an EDC light moon mode is mandatory for my use.

What I’ve learned in over 8 years of buying modern lights is that one man’s moon-mode is another man’s high.

Chris

Once my eyes are dark-adapted, anything over about 1 lumen is too bright.

ML mode makes me high.

Depending on the light, I really like a moon mode I can get to from off.
Then from there to low. Or a memorized setting.
Even the Big SP70 has a lower direct mode, not in the usual range.
It’s brighter than moon, but handy non the less for up close without killing my night vision.
All the Best,
Jeff

Very. I only use my Nichia S2+ in the bedroom before sleep for that reason - 0.1% mode with its 4x7135 is a proper moonlight mode that none of the other torches I like have. The low mode on both my Lumintop Tools (AA 2.0 and AAA CRI) is much too bright, it kills my sleep.

Moon mode really important especially for indoor use (kids).

But so many caveats. Need shortcut from off to moon. Don’t memorize moon mode - either no memory at all or remember modes other than moon. So many otherwise good lights remember moon mode and I don’t understand why - you can already get to moon from off, memory for moon makes it harder to use for everyone.

Moon is nice to have, buy not a dealbreaker for a light. It definitely has a place. In a EDC light it’s invaluable, but in something like a dedicated thrower type, not so much.

Moon mode is necessary for Warm White lights only, which I use at night time before I sleep or for bathroom walks. I don’t care about moon mode for CW lights.

If it don’t have <1 lumen mode, I don’t buy it.

My cataract-filled eyes still don’t need to be blinded inside a dark building.

I set up all my zebralights with a bunch of low-light modes, and only the top two have high lumens.

I even use my GT Micro at 1/3 to illuminate deer 150’ away.

The lowest mode that is available on all of my lights is ok/fine with me. I classify lights based on lumens specs based on upper end, not the lower end. The only time I use ultra low mode is to see what the emitter(s) look(s) like when it(they) are powered on. My smallest light that has a higher lowest mode is Imalent MS03, at 150 lumens. I have to admit that maybe a little lower than that could possibly be a little better.

Moon mode is nice to have, but rarely do I use it. The only time I do is when I’m away from home and I don’t want the bedroom totally dark all night. It’s amazing how your eyes will adjust to minuscule lumens enough to not bang into something on the way to the bathroom. And if I ever got stuck in a cave, the moon mode on 1 of my ZebraLights will last several months.

My wife goes to bed much earlier than me. I use ML every night to navigate my way into the bedroom. We don’t use any night lights anywhere. With all the trees around us plus closed shades it is usually darkish to very dark inside. Years ago I had better night vision, not so great anymore. A ML flashlight saves me from bashing a tow or someting and is dim enough that I won’t disturb anyone who is sleeping. ML is more than sufficient light for this.

I use a FW3A with the later version of Anduril in which if the light is set to use ramping and the light is electronically locked, a press-hold (1H) gives ML and a click, click & hold (2H) gives the low floor level that the non-ramped levels is set to. I find that ideal for night (ML) and daytime peering in cupboards (Low by 2H).

Use moon every nite.

D4 right next to me on the nite stand for a piss run in my large totally dark master bedroom/bathroom. Not wanting to turn on bright room lite that will just make it even harder to fall back asleep, my nichia d4 is my choice, its the perfect nite piss light imo… Not sure how many lumen my d4 has when grabbing the lite and holding in the button till it just lites up with a nice warm eye soothing real low moon glow, perfect for a tail stand candle on back of the toilet with no eye strain…

Got to love Narsil for predictability… as fiddling with tail button modes half asleep blinding yourself with mega lumen by mistake is troublesome for some of us…

d4 Moon is even a good nooky light, tail standing on the headboard reflecting off the mirror puts a nice low glow on….

jmo

When camping in groups, the old method for not blinding everyone was to hold your hand over the light and only let a little crack escape. So the only thing that has changed is that this can now be accomplished much more conveniently and efficiently. It was always a necessary feature, even before it was an option.

Using a light outdoors in an urban environment, low (about 10 Lumens) was my preferred lowest mode. But when my eyes are accustomed to black, that moon mode is a savior. Problem is some lights don’t behave the same, and I get a memorised last level ON w/ the long press. Ouch!

So yeah, Moon (or Firefly) as a separate setting from the main sequence. I prefer the long press to Moon with another long press to OFF.

I will echo others, the importance of moon mode depends on the light, and the purpose of the light. If it is an EDC size light, moon mod might be needed. I am not however picking up an MF04 to use moon mode, so if and when my ordered MF04 ever arrives the existence or lack of moon mode is unimportant. The same could be said for an Imalent MS18 were such a lumen monster ever to be in my hands. It is like reverse on a motorcycle, on a 750 Kawasaki, it was not needed. On my Goldwing, it was very necessary to have.

For a small edc it’s essential, I won’t buy one without firefly (sub-lumen). With dark adapted eyes anything above 1 lumen is too bright.

Key chain lights are an exception and UI depends on who and what it’s intended for.