d_t_a
July 30, 2020, 12:27pm
78
Received my M21C, excellent flashlight, the only thing that does not fit me on paper and that my M21C differs from the measurements of the review are the lumens and the consumptions. The normal for 4,000 OTF lumens is about 15A, and that proportion I get in mine, about 8.5A and 2,700 lumens, very far from the 9A and 4,000 lumens of the review, but still excellent.
I also measured the M21C XHP70.2 at around 8-9 Amps max (tailcap current), which is also similar for the Astrolux FT02S (XHP70.2). Both flashlights claim “4000+” lumens, but my own “guesstimate” (ceiling bounce lux measurement) would be in the ballpark of ~3000 lumens, which matches with the power/current consumption.
I would say the Convoy M21C (XHP70.2) and the Astrolux FT02 (XHP70.2) are very similar in terms of brightness and beam pattern. Both have similar size heads and both use 1x21700 battery. Difference is one uses a tailswitch and the other uses a side-switch…
caramba
July 31, 2020, 6:01am
79
Anyone tried the new Orange Peel reflector with XHP 70 ?
No one mentioned compatibility with 18650. Is that a non-issue?
id30209
July 31, 2020, 5:59am
80
I have it. Like it more than SMO cause beam is just perfect. Transition from hotspot to spill is flawless but throw is a bit reduced.
Simon_Mao
July 31, 2020, 8:15am
81
OP makes the light more floody,
caramba
August 3, 2020, 8:26pm
82
Thank you Simon,
that means no Samsung INR batteries including 30Q,
No, he just means 18650s will fit in the light and that high drain is suggested/required. 30Q should be perfectly fine since they can handle 15A (and even 20A, but with significant voltage sag).
Simon_Mao
August 4, 2020, 1:58am
84
In fact, INR batteries can also be used
caramba
August 4, 2020, 7:36pm
85
That’s great, makes sense, I think originally, I got confused by
Other 21700 flashlights list
caramba
August 12, 2020, 7:27am
86
What XHP 70.2 color temperature do you guys recommend?
XHP70.2 6500K
XHP70.2 5000K
XHP70.2 4000K
XHP70.2 3000K
M21C will be used as a thrower and I am ordering one with SMO reflector for max throw. ’
Is the 4000K less efficient in terms of kcd and throw?
Simon_Mao
August 12, 2020, 10:54am
87
caramba:
What XHP 70.2 color temperature do you guys recommend?
XHP70.2 6500K
XHP70.2 5000K
XHP70.2 4000K
XHP70.2 3000K
M21C will be used as a thrower and I am ordering one with SMO reflector for max throw. ’
Is the 4000K less efficient in terms of kcd and throw?
i dont think XHP70.2 LED is a good selection for long range light
d_t_a
August 12, 2020, 12:31pm
88
caramba:
What XHP 70.2 color temperature do you guys recommend?
XHP70.2 6500K
XHP70.2 5000K
XHP70.2 4000K
XHP70.2 3000K
M21C will be used as a thrower and I am ordering one with SMO reflector for max throw. '
Is the 4000K less efficient in terms of kcd and throw?
(these are the Convoy M3 XHP70.2 6500k, XHP70.2 5000k and XHP70.2 4000k)
another set of 3 Convoy M3 -- these are the Convoy M3 XHP70.2 5000k, XHP70.2 4000k and XHP70.2 3000k)
The Convoy M21C has a bit larger head than the M3, so should throw a bit farther than the M3 though.
Here I have some 3 beamshots of the Convoy L6, which has XHP70.2 6500k, XHP70.2 5000k, and XHP70.2 3000k.
(distance of flashlight to opposite building around 150 meters or 400 feet)
Convoy L6 XHP70.2 (P2-1A) 6500k beamshot:
Convoy L6 XHP70.2 (P2-3C) 5000k beamshot:
Convoy L6 XHP70.2 (N4-7A) 3000k beamshot:
(Convoy L6 also has XHP70.2 4000k, but I haven't tried that, so no beamshot).
The Convoy L6 has slightly bigger head than M21C, so it throws a bit farther than the M21C.
caramba
August 12, 2020, 9:41pm
89
d_t_a:
(these are the Convoy M3 XHP70.2 6500k, XHP70.2 5000k and XHP70.2 4000k)
The Convoy M21C has a bit larger head than the M3, so should throw a bit farther than the M3 though.
Convoy L6 XHP70.2 (P2-3C) 5000k beamshot:
The Convoy L6 has slightly bigger head than M21C, so it throws a bit farther than the M21C.
Very nice beamshots. Thank you that was very informative. The L6 is really nice.
caramba
August 12, 2020, 9:58pm
90
Now I understand why so many requested the OP reflector for the XHP70?
What LED would you recommend?.
iken
September 7, 2020, 10:45am
91
m3 or m26C xhp70 3000K for more flood with op? thank you!!
ArtieT59
September 14, 2020, 1:52pm
92
id30209:
Yesterday i got mine. I gotta say that SMO reflector shows amazingly small amount of yellow crap comming from XHP70.2. I’m still surprised. And those rings Swabs are talking about are coming from the bottom part of the bezel ring and sometimes from reflector emitter opening.
Simple solution is to use permanent marker and ink just the opening of reflector and bottom part of the bezel ring. Be carefull not to touch the inside of reflector!
Beam gets improved instantly without rings. I’m gonna heat anodize bezel ring for much better look instead of just painting it.
Truely impressed with SMO reflector!
Thank you for these tips. Could you possibly show pictures of exactly what part of the bezel/reflector opening you are speaking of here? I am not 100% sure what side of the reflector (top or bottom) you are suggesting to use permanent marker on… Sorry im new, and not too bright. Thank you, of you arent able to, no worries. i will do more research. Thanks again
id30209
September 14, 2020, 2:40pm
93
I’ll post it tomorrow.
Rusty_Joe
September 14, 2020, 3:30pm
94
Looks really nice, but really head-heavy.
id30209
September 15, 2020, 1:09pm
95
Here’s the part of the reflector that needs some tan
ArtieT59
September 15, 2020, 11:30pm
96
Awesome, thank you id30209! I would definitely not have realized the inside part of the 1mm(?) lip was what you meant. That is very helpful for me.
Rusty Joe- i appreciate the info about weight balance of this light, i wouldn’t of considered that since I have not run into that before. Thanks!
drewski
March 7, 2021, 2:31am
97
Anyone know if there are major differences in performance with the xhp70.2 over the sst40? What would the difference be in throw, heat dissipation, and output/runtime?
