[UPDATED M4D deal] Manker “EDC Muscle Combo – BLF Limited”

Do the MC13 and E14 III have "low voltage protection" (provided by the flashlight itself) when used with an "unprotected battery"?

Or do the flashlights only have "low voltage protection" (provided only by the "protected battery") when used with a "protected battery"?

Flashlights that have low voltage protection have it for protected and unprotected cells.

Yes I understand that, but not all flashlights have built-in low voltage protection.

Do the MC13 and E14 III have low voltage protection built-in to the flashlight for unprotected batteries?

In the product description in mankerlight site:
“3. Low battery indicator:
Voltage <3.2V, the brightness level downshifts to Moonlight.
Voltage = 2.9V, turn off.
(Ratio Error: ± 0.1V,while using different battery)”

Thanks for that information. Sounds like the flashlights probably do have low voltage protection.

It would be more reassuring to me if they clearly said that the flashlights have built-in low voltage protection using language that actually states "Low voltage protection" (instead of language that just states "Low battery indicator") because some flashlights behave the way they describe that do not have low voltage protection and downshift their brightness and eventually also turn off but continue to discharge the battery.

at 3.2V moon activates on both (tested several times)

But … doesn’t it clearly state that it shuts off when the battery reaches 2.9V? That’s what LVP is.

It’s like a car manual stating, “in the event of a collision exceeding 30 kph, a balloon-like vessel will inflate to protect the front-seat passengers from impact”, and then people wonder if it has airbags.

Lol thank you. This made my day :smiley: :laughing:

Do we know what kind of driver is in either of these lights?

It also states that each flashlight includes a protected battery:

So does the "2.9V, turn off" occur because of the "protected battery" or because of the flashlight?

It is not clearly stated which mechanism provides the "low voltage protection" (the battery or the flashlight).

Do the flashlights have low voltage protection and turn off at 2.9 Volts when using an unprotected battery?

Hopefully forum member Mankerlight or someone who has tested the flashlights using unprotected batteries will comment and clarify this.

I can confirm that LVP kicked in (light turned fully off) around 3.0v on an unprotected cell

Thanks for confirming this and that the flashlight does have built-in low voltage protection.

I was not trying to cause any controversy. It was simply a question I was curious about since I do not need any more lights that do not have built-in low voltage protection.

That would depend on which mechanism noticed the low voltage first. Either way your cell is protected. Variances in cell and flashlight allow that question to not be answered correctly for every light and every protected cell combination.

Ah, okay. That’s a good point.

I’d be concerned too. So I’m glad someone tested it and posted their results. :blush:

Martin, any chance of asking them to bundle the E02ii in with this deal as an option? Looks like a great aaa size headlamp that I’ll be looking to add to my collection, and would be nice to get them all together!

sorry, E02II is not in the EDC combo groupbuy plan.

Can it not be added as an option?

Was just comparing the L17 to the MC13….

I’m in for the deal, although I wish it just came with 2 18650 tubes.

What about a deal with two MC13 heads one short tube and one long. I have no interest in the MC14 and that’s why I backed out of the deal. Regardless I will purchase the MC13 after I get my L17 next week.

From my understanding you can add whatever you want from Manker’s site to your cart when you order. Seeing as how this is a combo because these two lights are intended to work as a pair, on some level. I don’t see it really making financial sense for Manker to “sweeten the deal” by adding the E02 II which would also increase the bundle price.

That said, I do have the E02 II and it’s a pretty awesome light, so I highly recommend adding it to your order when you order your combo!