[Postponed] Sofirn SP10R - deep red AA/14500 EDC

A couple examples:

Please note that since deep red emitters have quite a bit lower Vf, driving them the actual current ouput of these boost drivers could be increased to at least 3+A without difficulty. And much beyond if they were to change stuff like Agnelucio. :-)

Edit.- Remember: boost driver, all emitters in series receive the full current. You must think in terms of power. At 3+A driving current total Vf could be close to 10V and the drain from the battery will be noteworthy. No less than 10 or 15 A rated batteries, just in case.

Whether in this case they decide to use a driver like this or not is up to them, but it's time for they to get better buck and boost drivers. They also need some good buck ones, really.

Tue, 08/18/2020 - 14:53

Interested

Agreed!

As much as I would like Sofirn to build more lights using buck, boost or high constant current drivers, I see some (market) constraints that counteract this plan. So far, their largest target group is what I call "standard customers" (not those flash'o'maniacs like us), people who want to get a decent, powerful light for a very competitive and reasonable price, regardless of tint and CRI. I'm not saying low-budget because that would be insulting, looking at those myriads of crapfire lights for less than $ 10.00 that you can find on Amazon, eBay, AliExpress etc.. So, let's just state they aim for customers who are willing to spend $ 30 - $ 80 for a flashlight. Sofirn is really good in this market segment, getting better and better. If we now ask them to build more lights with more efficient, more complex and - most important - more expensive components, they will need to enter a new pricing level that is already taken by brands like Fenix, Acebeam, Olight etc. pp.. They will also need to put more resources in driver development (assuming they want to keep on using their own drivers). All of this needs to fit into their long-term business strategy. My hope is, if we keep asking, begging and longing for better drivers long enough, they will eventually decide to step up with a "premium" product line including BLF's most wanted features.

Can I assume it’ll be significantly brighter with lithiums like the other one?

About the strobe; I never needed it so I’m fine without it.

“click for ON/OFF and hold to cycle” That is a welcome change.

That's yet to find out but I expect a truly visible difference between SP10R and C01R on full power. While Sofirn applied a bit more than 1A on C01R's XP-E2 photo red (on high mode), SST20-DR can possibly driven with 2A (or even more) on full power. In the end, the thermal design of the SP10S host will have a significant impact how far Sofirn can push the limits. As much as I love hotrod lights that can burn your skin (at own risk), there will need to be a reasonable balance between shorting the lifespan of the LED, having a safe maximum temperature and draining the battery.

Interested in 2

SP10S appears to single click to Low and then cycles through Low, Med, High, Eco, Low.

I hope that the SP10R UI is different. E.g. Hold to access firefly. Single click through each mode in a uniform manner (Low, Med, High, Med, Low, Firefly, Low, Med, High…).

Nope...

The UI is drafted like this:

Hold from OFF ► firefly mode (~0.2lm)

1 click ► ON/OFF

Hold from ON ► Cycle modes low-medium-high (no mode memory from OFF)

2 clicks from ON/OFF ► Turbo ► 1 click to turn OFF / 2 clicks to return to previous mode

4 clicks from OFF ► electronic lockout (on/off)

It is set that there will be no strobe modes at all.

Like.

I am interested in 2! Let’s make it happen!

All depends, but right now interested in one.

What is the status of the project, Lux? I have already got the C01R, but I find it running out of battery too quickly for my use (mostly as a bulb at night).

I don't have any status update yet. Sofirn's factory is currently quite busy, so there might be some delay in rigging up a prototype of SP10R. I will keep you updated as soon as I get any news.

Interested.

Thank you very much.

With the UI described I’m in, and I would take one with a white emitter too.

I would also like one with a white emitter with this UI, do you think this UI will be available on all the SP10X?

I must admit, I have no idea about Sofirn's plans for the next generation of AA / AAA lights. It could be that they will introduce a whole new line up of lights or focus on improving the details only. What I can tell so far is that I collected as much (negative) feedback about SP10S as I could find and tried to eradicate any downsides with the concept of SP10R. These improvement suggestions can be found in the OP of this thread.

As soon as Lexel and Sofirn have finished the SP10S Andúril dual chemistry boost driver, there might be a nice option for those looking for a better SP10S with white light.

Ah I see; Thanks for the info. You can put me in as interested.

And thanks for your continued diligence in working with Sofirn to refine and improve these lights for the BLF community.

Interested in 1.